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re: A detailed look at Notre Dame's offense
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:18 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:18 am to Buckeye Fan 19
This was a very long write up on a really shitty offense. Should have wrote about their defense at least they're good on that side of the ball.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:20 am to oklahogjr
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This was a very long write up on a really shitty offense. Should have wrote about their defense at least they're good on that side of the ball.
1) Whether they're bad or not, believe it or not, they will play on Jan. 7. I know, shocking.
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I will do one for the ND defense later in the week.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:22 am to oklahogjr
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This was a very long write up on a really shitty offense
Their offense would have tied Arkansas for 6th in the SEC. Only 18 yards per game behind Bama.
ND offense isn't nearly as shitty as some of the football newbs on here think it is. It has obvious problems scoring, but can move and control the football.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:41 am to Buckeye Fan 19
Basically I think Bama's offense will perform better against ND's defense than ND's offense will vs Bama's defense. In other words Bama's offense is quite a bit better than ND's. Intuitively, ND's offense hasn't scored many points even against some pretty crappy opponents while Bama's offense has performed well vs SEC competition. But having said this, both defenses are good so I'm expecting a fairly low scoring game, maybe something like 27-17 Bama.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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ND didn't play rent-a-wins, and Bama did. Do you disagree with that???
Yes, Navy, Purdue, Wake, and BYU are all rent-a-wins.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Their offense would have tied Arkansas for 6th in the SEC. Only 18 yards per game behind Bama.
ND offense isn't nearly as shitty as some of the football newbs on here think it is. It has obvious problems scoring, but can move and control the football.
our offense sucked donkey dick. if they were tied with us then they weren't any good.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
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ND didn't play rent-a-wins, and Bama did. Do you disagree with that???
Yes, Navy, Purdue, Wake, and BYU are all rent-a-wins.
You don't have a clue what "rent-a-win" means.
For you newbs, a rent a win is a team that is brought into your stadium to play a game for money, that they have no chance to be competitive.
There isn't a team on ND's schedule that fits that description.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Their offense would have tied Arkansas for 6th in the SEC. Only 18 yards per game behind Bama.
Their offense would have finished in bottom 3rd if they had to play an SEC schedule. Sorry, Oklahoma's and Michigan's or anyone else on their schedule outside of Stanford's defense is not as good as Georgia, Florida, USCe, Bama, LSU and on and on.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:07 pm to oklahogjr
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our offense sucked donkey dick. if they were tied with us then they weren't any good.
Your offense finished in the top half of the SEC. By any definition, that isn't bad.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Your offense finished in the top half of the SEC. By any definition, that isn't bad.
offense should be measured in points. It's cool to pile up yards but if you don't score then does it really matter. the only reason our offense looks as good as it does is because auburn and kentucky couldn't stop us, any other semi decent team could stop our offense dead in it's tracks without much effort.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
They played those teams solely for W's. I dont give a frick if they cut them a check at the end of the day or not(Im sure they did).
Those are awful football teams scheduled to be automatic wins.
None of those 4 teams had a chance to be competitive. The fact that the Irish played some of them close speaks to how average they are.
Those are awful football teams scheduled to be automatic wins.
None of those 4 teams had a chance to be competitive. The fact that the Irish played some of them close speaks to how average they are.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:15 pm to davesdawgs
I love the write up. Its greatly appreciated, regardless of the trolls.
I think it reads very favorably for Bama. I now think we cover the spread after reading that. Slow rb with a qb that has questionable pocket presence and reading ability is a recipe for disaster. Especially with Saban having so much time to prepare.
On O, I think we have a slow start, but start running for 7-10 yards a carry in 2nd half. You have two first round senior o linemen playing their last college game with the chance for 3 rings in 4 years. Then you have our man beast Fluker also in his last game, hoping to move from the 2nd to 1st round. If you've ever seen that guy, I know I wouldn't want to go against him while hungry to feed his family.
It could be a grind em out game, but I think Bama wins 27-13. Y'all should have about 2-3 chances in the red zone. You'll need to seize those opportunities, and a couple of turnovers. Bama will be prepared, and will look to run it right at you, UGA style.
Bama fans are so pissed at all of the passing on the last drive of the a&m game, Nuss would probably rather risk a tight game by running, than risk his job by passing like we're in the PAC/Big12. our whole OL will be in the nfl. 4 of 5 in the first 3 rounds (including CyKo). We have the best back in this years draft, and a freshman who probably has a higher ceiling. Lacy rarely fumbles, but Yeldon has had a couple of untimely fumbles (though he's had more game changing/ saving plays to make up for it).
Too many of our receivers have gotten hurt this year, but we have solid players available. Cooper is, at worst, the 2nd best Freshman receiver, and is almost as good as Lee. If you play him single coverage in man, you gonna get burned for a long TD. Teams that overcommit to stopping the run have gotten hurt by him. Norwood is a good possession receiver who is a big 3rd down target. Christian Jones is a slippery runner who is also talented with good hands.
Michael Williams is a great blocking te. He'll have a couple of receptions, but is not Gronk as a target. But blocks better than most teams tackles.
Good Luck to your Irish. I personally can't wait.
I think it reads very favorably for Bama. I now think we cover the spread after reading that. Slow rb with a qb that has questionable pocket presence and reading ability is a recipe for disaster. Especially with Saban having so much time to prepare.
On O, I think we have a slow start, but start running for 7-10 yards a carry in 2nd half. You have two first round senior o linemen playing their last college game with the chance for 3 rings in 4 years. Then you have our man beast Fluker also in his last game, hoping to move from the 2nd to 1st round. If you've ever seen that guy, I know I wouldn't want to go against him while hungry to feed his family.
It could be a grind em out game, but I think Bama wins 27-13. Y'all should have about 2-3 chances in the red zone. You'll need to seize those opportunities, and a couple of turnovers. Bama will be prepared, and will look to run it right at you, UGA style.
Bama fans are so pissed at all of the passing on the last drive of the a&m game, Nuss would probably rather risk a tight game by running, than risk his job by passing like we're in the PAC/Big12. our whole OL will be in the nfl. 4 of 5 in the first 3 rounds (including CyKo). We have the best back in this years draft, and a freshman who probably has a higher ceiling. Lacy rarely fumbles, but Yeldon has had a couple of untimely fumbles (though he's had more game changing/ saving plays to make up for it).
Too many of our receivers have gotten hurt this year, but we have solid players available. Cooper is, at worst, the 2nd best Freshman receiver, and is almost as good as Lee. If you play him single coverage in man, you gonna get burned for a long TD. Teams that overcommit to stopping the run have gotten hurt by him. Norwood is a good possession receiver who is a big 3rd down target. Christian Jones is a slippery runner who is also talented with good hands.
Michael Williams is a great blocking te. He'll have a couple of receptions, but is not Gronk as a target. But blocks better than most teams tackles.
Good Luck to your Irish. I personally can't wait.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:25 pm to oklahogjr
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offense should be measured in points
Points are a byproduct of ever facet of the team, not just offense. LSU's offense proves this.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:30 pm to TreyAnastasio
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None of those 4 teams had a chance to be competitive
All but Wake Forest have beaten ND in the past. Wake, unlike Western Carolina, W. Kentucky or Fla. Atlantic is in a BCS conference.
You just don't understand the concept of a rent-a-win.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I get it fine, Ace.
You dont understand that those schools that played ND are just as bad, if not worse than the ones that played Bama.
ETA: And who gives a shite if they have beaten ND in the past. A) ND has sucked huge donkey dick for the last 20 years. B)Has absolutely no bearing on those teams this season.
You dont understand that those schools that played ND are just as bad, if not worse than the ones that played Bama.
ETA: And who gives a shite if they have beaten ND in the past. A) ND has sucked huge donkey dick for the last 20 years. B)Has absolutely no bearing on those teams this season.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:35 pm to TreyAnastasio
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You dont understand that those schools that played ND are just as bad, if not worse than the ones that played Bama.
well, pretend all you want.
The point stands, that people who think ND's offense is awful just don't know shite about college football.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The point stands, that people who think ND's offense is awful just don't know shite about college football.
If you say so boss.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All but Wake Forest have beaten ND in the past. Wake, unlike Western Carolina, W. Kentucky or Fla. Atlantic is in a BCS conference.
You are really struggling to defend your original position regarding strength of schedule. It's fine to just admit that you didn't realize that ND's schedule strength was basically the same as Alabama's and that Notre Dame played teams that were just as bad as Alabama's cream puffs with exception of maybe Western Carolina (it's true as I showed you in my earlier post). Or you can continue to try and defend your indefensible original point.
By the way the fact that Notre Dame struggled with some of their cream puffs doesn't change the fact that they are cream puffs. And Notre Dame does pay some teams to play them at home so your rent-a-win distinction is not only meaningless, but it's wrong too.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:02 pm to elposter
Whats the point? He is just going to believe what ever agenda fits his Bama-hating arguments.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 1:07 pm to elposter
ND's schedule had the potential of being difficult this year. The result at the end of the year is that it wasn't. Bottom line, most of the teams they scheduled just weren't very good this year.
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