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re: 2nd NOA Finally Received
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:22 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:22 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Offering cash directly to recruits for signatures and doling out cash on visits.
Is this something that you're hoping is in this NOA?
Which recruits, specifically, are you referring to?
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:22 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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What football coach arranged the academic fraud?
Chris Vaughn, then tried to cover it up by coaching players being interviewed by investigators. Saunders admitted this in the ULLafayette Lawsuit.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:23 pm to rebel of fortune
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Ole Miss cheats on the same level as probably everybody else.
I don't think that's true bc if it were you wouldn't have gotten the recruiting classes you got for those few years. For an also ran with little history, a small fan base, and relatively weak facilities to suddenly start pulling in top 10 classes out of nowhere indicates more is going on than just your run of the mill stuff everybody does.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:28 pm to pankReb
Ole Miss hasn't paid anyone to sign with Ole Miss. Pay to play doesn't happen very often in college as much as people think it does.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:30 pm to JustGetItRight
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Y'all tried to say the same thing with the first NOA and it is utterly, completely, and absolutely untrue. The letter isn't to the attorney, it is to the school. It doesn't matter who has physical possession of it.
Sorry. I know that you want to believe what you want to believe....but it is factual that attorneys in Birmingham are the ones directly dealing with the NCAA. This isn't just something that I'm making up. This is why we waited almost the entire 90 days that the NCAA gives you to respond before making the content of the allegations public.
That is what happened. If what happened is out of protocol, then you need to take it up with the NCAA.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:30 pm to cribbsjy
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How has nobody added the Ole Miss logo to the clan cloak?
Not sure. But sometimes subtlety is better.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:31 pm to rebel of fortune
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Ole Miss hasn't paid anyone to sign with Ole Miss. Pay to play doesn't happen very often in college as much as people think it does.
Cars, sweetheart deals, new jobs / promotions for parents, jobs for family members, are all pretty common.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:32 pm to pankReb
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So you are saying they can't use his very public statement
That, alone, holds no weight. It doesn't say from whom, how much, etc. There's a very large difference in punishment if a coach gave him $5 vs $5000.
That alone would be enough if the NCAA wanted it to be. But as I stated, that's not the only testimony they have.
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What statement did he give? That's a legitimate question as I have no idea about any statement that he gave to the NCAA. Last I heard is that the dolphins advised him to STFU and concentrate on the NFL.
The friggin NCAA interviewed him and his step father. So this has not one damn thing to do with the NFL.
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Stepfather said he asked a booster for $800. That isn't being denied and actions have already been taken. There have been no accusations from him that the coaches paid Tunsil. That's in the original NOA.
Man, I understand that you want to litigate this on a message board to convince people an yourself that it's not true, but I am telling g you flat out that you are wrong.
The NCAA was last this and would have asked if all information was turned over. Tunsil's interview was taken, and the step father's. The NCAA has the right to go back if new information comes out. Tunsil's public statement goes against what he told them.
You have in your mind that everything is OK because that was on a past NOA. That's flawed.
If his private statement and public statement are at odds, which one do they go with? I believe that would be the question. The next question is do we have anybody else that confirmed that? Yes... His step father.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:32 pm to pankReb
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Is this something that you're hoping is in this NOA?
Which recruits, specifically, are you referring to?
I don't really give a shite, I honestly don't harbor any ill will towards Ole Miss. That said, it's well known that Tunsil's family was paid $100K and super bowl tickets to sign with Ole Miss. I have no moral objection to paying recruits, and doubt the NCAA is gonna be able to prove much. I simply corrected one poster who has adopted the all too common "everybody is doing it, we just got caught cause we aren't supposed to be good" defense.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I don't think that's true bc if it were you wouldn't have gotten the recruiting classes you got for those few years. For an also ran with little history, a small fan base, and relatively weak facilities to suddenly start pulling in top 10 classes out of nowhere indicates more is going on than just your run of the mill stuff everybody does.
Tunsil is the only wildcard from that big 2013 class that no links to ole miss. We had a connection with everyone else.
You don't get a top 10 class with one player and there hasn't been a single legitimate accusation made about any other major player.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:35 pm to rebel of fortune
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Pay to play doesn't happen very often in college as much as people think it does.
You're right. That's why when Ole Miss started doing it with multiple top players in a single class, the entire conference went ape shite and turned them in.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:35 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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it's well known that Tunsil's family was paid $100K and super bowl tickets to sign with Ole Miss.
That is literally the first time that I've ever heard this from anyone.
It can't be "well known" if no one has ever fricking heard it
And if so, why did he sign last after the other stars signed? You'd think we would have gotten his signature much earlier if that were the case.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:36 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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You're right. That's why when Ole Miss started doing it with multiple top players in a single class, the entire conference went ape shite and turned them in.
Oh....you're just making shite up.
Carry on then. Rants gotta rant.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:38 pm to pankReb
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That is literally the first time that I've ever heard this from anyone.
It can't be "well known" if no one has ever fricking heard it
From 2012
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Look, congrats on the class, it's a good one no doubt. The tie-in with Nkemdiche made it. But, you should have quit when you were ahead. You can justify everyone in your class except Tunsil. I know the story, so do the Georgia coaches, especially John Lilly. Tunsil committed to him 4 weeks ago. Then he saw the text to Tunsil's mom where she said, "Don't be foolish, take care of the family". 100K plus Super Bowl tickets sealed the deal.
I'll let the rebels tell me how they got him the Super Bowl tickets.
https://www.clarionledger.com/viewart...ide-Super-Bowl
Like I said, coaches did a fantastic job. Boosters just went a little too far. I have heard that Georgia has already turned them in to the NCAA.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:40 pm to pankReb
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Tunsil is the only wildcard from that big 2013 class that no links to ole miss. We had a connection with everyone else. You don't get a top 10 class with one player and there hasn't been a single legitimate accusation made about any other major player.
Keep tilting at those windmills, Quixote.
The facts are that if OM is able to mitigate 1/2 of the 8 LEVEL 1 violations listed in the original NOA, they are still screwed per the NCAA penalty structure. And it can only get worse, unless you want to sell that the 2nd letter was mainly a detraction of original infractions
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:42 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Did you just source a message board post?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:42 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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What football coach arranged the academic fraud?
David Saunders and Chris Vaughn
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There is proof that an assistant AD paying a football player or do you have screen shots where it was discussed?
Ole Miss verified the legitimacy of the texts, so...
LINK
It's hilarious to me that the OM intelligentsia comes into these threads demanding that posters prove the infractions on here. All the while, the NCAA is doing just that and y'all keep burying your heads in the sand.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:46 pm to pankReb
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Did you just source a message board post?
Did you just claim I made something up for the first time in 2017 when it has been on the internet since 2012? I copied and pasted the first link that came up, I think you're vastly overestimating how much I give a frick if you believe me or not.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:48 pm to Vecchio Cane
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The facts are that if OM is able to mitigate 1/2 of the 8 LEVEL 1 violations listed in the original NOA, they are still screwed per the NCA penalty structure. And it can only get worse, unless you want to sell that the 2nd letter was mainly a detraction of original infractions
Like I said earlier...my understanding is that this is an amended NOA...not a completely separate one.
I'd also like to point out that I've yet to say in this thread that we're innocent of any wrong doings or going to get off with little punishment. I'm just pointing out that none of you idiots actually has any idea about what's in here and are just going off of message board rumors(proof of that is just a few posts up) and guesses.
The facts are gonna be exactly what they are and we won't know what it is until they release it. I still have some connections to the athletic department and they aren't saying shite to anyone. So forgive me if I don't believe some random-assed msu, LSU, etc. message board posters when they keep regurgitating bullshite.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 1:50 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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Did you just claim I made something up for the first time in 2017 when it has been on the internet since 2012? I copied and pasted the first link that came up, I think you're vastly overestimating how much I give a frick if you believe me or not.
Forgive me for assuming that you'd be intelligent enough to not source an off-shoot message board post as something that's "widely known". Think about all of the "widely known" idiotic shite that's been posted here over the years.
And yeah you obviously don't give a frick
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