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Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:29 pm to RebelTheBear
Process you say?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:31 pm to RebelTheBear
You can't blame this on the NCAA. You had gotten what should have been the only Now needed. But you staff never stopped and new information came up.
That's on whoever was in control....Maybe they were not in control and that was the problem.
That's on whoever was in control....Maybe they were not in control and that was the problem.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:32 pm to The muffintime
My point is everyone has an agenda when it comes to a SEC school and everyone on here wants Ole Miss to get hammered because it helps their school out. Ole Miss cheats on the same level as probably everybody else. Ole Miss should still get penalized for getting caught but to act like other schools are cleaner than Ole Miss is being very naive.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:32 pm to Jjdoc
Must say, have lost a bit of respect for Freeze/Bjork for not handling this properly. There's no way (unless our whole AD is about to get fricked) that this should have taken 5 years.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:32 pm to GreyReb
fricking finally
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:32 pm to GameCocky88
NCAA - "Trust the process."
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:33 pm to Jjdoc
And you are assuming a lot of stuff is in the NOA that's may not be. Tunsil getting money is probably not in the NOA. That is a huge part of this case.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:38 pm to rebel of fortune
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Ole Miss cheats on the same level as probably everybody els
I'm going to say no. I know of no other sec university that cheated while the NCAA was there investigating them for cheating!
I mean.... Common sense goes a long way.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:39 pm to rebel of fortune
quote:I think I've made my feelings on this pretty clear. While I absolutely empathize with the average OM fan's pain, I do feel that the NCAA must penalize them harshly. Doing otherwise would set an even more dangerous precedent than we currently have. I have no doubt that cheating is rampant in college football, but until each and every individual school is proven to be cheating, you can't do anything about it. Again, "everyone is doing it" is not a valid defense.
My point is everyone has an agenda when it comes to a SEC school and everyone on here wants Ole Miss to get hammered because it helps their school out. Ole Miss cheats on the same level as probably everybody else. Ole Miss should still get penalized for getting caught but to act like other schools are cleaner than Ole Miss is being very naive.
The last point is a bit of personal hope that I hold on to. I genuinely hope that serious cheating on an institutional level is relatively rare. I have to cling to that hope because if I didn't I would just stop watching college sports altogether and that would be heartbreaking for me.
I don't derive any sort of joy from seeing OM fans suffer, man.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:41 pm to HottyToddy7
At this point, I think I will read Mbutterfly's comments and feel fairly certain he is closer to the situation than you guys.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:45 pm to HottyToddy7
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Tunsil getting money is probably not in the NOA. That is a huge part of this case.
We are all going to get more acquainted with the NCAA hierarchy of offenses and their punishment structure.
OM fans have taken solace in the fact that no "smoking gun" has been revealed relating to pay-for-play. But, pay-for-play is no more egregious than many other infractions in the NCAAs eyes. Unfortunately for OM, one of the things the NCAA deems most punishment-worthy is illegal contact/ recruitment. Example: A Head Coach involving a booster in the recruitment of a student-athlete. Now, imagine if there was documentation of that head coach actually being in the same room with a recruit and a booster. Man, that punishment could get medieval
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:47 pm to HottyToddy7
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And you are assuming a lot of stuff is in the NOA that's may not be. Tunsil getting money is probably not in the NOA. That is a huge part of this case.
Talk about making assumptions......
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:54 pm to Jjdoc
Every coaching staff in the country has ties to other schools and coaching staffs. Look at how many coaches move around on SEC staffs. Freeze learned a lot from coach O about recruiting. Coach O is currently a SEC head coach. If Ole Miss was cheating at the levels people insisted they did then why did they only sign two top 10 classes in the Freeze era.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:56 pm to GreyReb
Should be on probation, just for blowing that big of a lead against the Gumps!!
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:57 pm to GreyReb
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F the NCAA
You're like the parent who blames the teacher when your kid gets an F
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:57 pm to Jjdoc
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At this point, I think I will read Mbutterfly's comments and feel fairly certain he is closer to the situation than you guys.
He has yet to post any sort of specific information. Everything he posts is incredibly vague and allows him an out of nothing happens. Your problem is that you've fallen into his countless "I told you so" threads where he refuses to provide any of his old posts that actually reference anything related to the topic at hand.
Also, my understanding is that this is an amended NOA and not a second, separate one.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:58 pm to HottyToddy7
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Tunsil getting money is probably not in the NOA. That is a huge part of this case.
Wait... What??
So it's a huge part of the case(and it actually isn't) and he is on record stating he was paid, but na..... It's not part of the NOA?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:58 pm to GreyReb
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NCAA may be opening up a can of worms with this "immunity" tactic.
they have been doing it since day one
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Saban told his players requested by NCAA not to talk because they don't have to.
This is completely false, if you are under the NCAA umbrella you must comply
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:59 pm to rebel of fortune
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My point is everyone has an agenda when it comes to a SEC school and everyone on here wants Ole Miss to get hammered because it helps their school out. Ole Miss cheats on the same level as probably everybody else. Ole Miss should still get penalized for getting caught but to act like other schools are cleaner than Ole Miss is being very naive.
You're swallowing the party line. It is well established by now that Ole Miss was going above and beyond what is just the normal course of business, and that's exactly why other teams spoke up. This wasn't just keeping up, your boosters started rocking the boat, openly offering cash and other benefits to make sure they won those battles instead of just being on the same playing field.
The poor me shite doesn't fly in this case. This isn't Ole Miss getting picked on because they tried to keep up with the big boys, this was slow rolling past the IRS head office in a $100K vehicle on 32s with the system turned up when you haven't filed a tax return in ten years.
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