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Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:42 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:42 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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And what happened when he traveled there?.....
So you admit you're wrong, right?
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:54 pm to gatorhata9
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So you admit you're wrong, right?
Good luck.
Seriously, though....the Buddha ought to sue the shite out of Jeebus and his disciples for copyright infringement.
There is an equal chance that Jeebus travelled to India during his near three-decades long hiatus from the historical record* and stole philosophical ideas from the teachings of the Buddha, as there is a chance that he ever existed in the first place.
*Come on, people. Jeebus wasn't born in Bethlehem. That was a story concocted later by followers to fill in the gaps in Jesus' story to allow for that to align with the messiah prophecies. Born in Bethlehem to a virgin mother. Lap it up, y'all. That bastard was born, IF ANYWHERE, in Nazareth, and many historical scholars agree.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 1:55 pm to Leghumper
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Paul never mentioned Jesus' resurrection or even Mary's existence once...not once..
Are you serious? Paul mentioned the resurrection in most all of his writings - if not all of them.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 2:07 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Are you serious? Paul mentioned the resurrection in most all of his writings - if not all of them.
Okay. List every chapter and verse in which St. Paul mentions the ressurection. This is your mission. To fail is to sin is to burn for eternity. GO!
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:28 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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Assuming Paul didn't make up stories about a man he never met, I'd say Paul's life has made the bigger impact upon lives today.
At least acknowledge that without Paul, Jesus becomes a but footnote in history at best. Of course, without Jesus, Paul is Saul, and lost to history...
I think you are wrong. I've never me Abraham Lincoln but I can tell you all about him. The same can be said about countless people. That they never met is immaterial. And, if asked, Paul would tell you you are wrong, too. Everything Paul did or said pointed to one thing....Christ.
In order to believe and be a Christian, one would have to acknowledge God. If you believe in god, then you believe that god can accomplish anything. While, there is no doubt that Paul helped spread the gospel around the world...and certainly is responsible for bringing the gospel to the Gentiles, God could have accomplished this through someone else.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:29 pm to Sanford&MunSon
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Jerusalem was fairly large right?
I'm not sure. Probably (just a guess) it was not when compared to such large cities as Rome, though.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:32 pm to Leghumper
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Paul never mentioned Jesus' resurrection
Actually....he did in Corinthians:
1 Corinthians 15
The Resurrection of Christ
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel a which I preached to you, which also you received and b in which you stand, 2 c by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you - unless d you believed in vain.
3 For e I delivered to you first of all that f which I also received: that Christ died for our sins g according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day h according to the Scriptures, 5 i and that He was seen by 1 Cephas, then j by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have 2 fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then k by all the apostles. 8 l Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9 For I am m the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because n I persecuted the church of God. 10 But o by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, p yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
Not sure why his mention of Mary would be so important, but I would have to do research to see. Mary was not the focus of Paul....Jesus was.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:34 pm to gatorhata9
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Yes, it was. There were between 40,000 and 50,000 people living in Jerusalem during the time Jesus would have been there. It just doesn't fit Jefferson's
Not sure i would call 40,00-50,000 large, especially when you had MUCH larger cities l;ike Rome and such. but, this is not Jefferson's narrative. This is a poem or thoughts by someone else. he was merely sharing it with us.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:35 pm to DawgsLife
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If you believe in god, then you believe that god can accomplish anything.
So...can Jeebus' father build a keg of beer that he himself cannot drink?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:37 pm to germandawg
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As far as Jesus goes if anyone had the PR department that he had
PR Department? 12 men made up of fishermen, a tax collector, doctor and one or two others? Ok. If you think that is a high powered PR department....
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:39 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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And that's the problem with religion in general: if you have doubts, you are damned.
Not at all. All Christians have doubts about various things. However, with this bunch doubting the Bulldogs from time to time I find the remark rather ironic. Are you any less a Bulldog because you have questions and doubts? It does require faith, though.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:39 pm to DawgsLife
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I've never me Abraham Lincoln but I can tell you all about him.
Please explain to me why Lincoln was the worst president in the history of this government.
Also, did you know that Lincoln was a vampire hunter? Amazing, huh?
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:42 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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Okay. List every chapter and verse in which St. Paul mentions the ressurection. This is your mission. To fail is to sin is to burn for eternity. GO!
See my post below...I think two or three below. 1 Corinthians 15 he mentions it.
I have to go for now, but will be happy to post other places if you would like tomorrow.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:03 pm to DawgsLife
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Not at all. All Christians have doubts about various things. However, with this bunch doubting the Bulldogs from time to time I find the remark rather ironic. Are you any less a Bulldog because you have questions and doubts? It does require faith, though.
I dare you to stand before your Christian peers on a Sunday in church, and voice a doubt in the divinity of Christ or in the existence of God.
The damnation of which I speak comes not from a mythological creature in the sky, but rather is embodied in that treatment that one receives from the believers of fairy tales when that one expresses a doubt in elements of the story or in the story itself.
I mean, how can an imaginary being damn someone, amirite?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:05 pm to DawgsLife
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I have to go for now, but will be happy to post other places if you would like tomorrow.
I was being sarcastic, and prodding humper a bit. I was raised Pentecostal and Paul ISASAINT....ASAINTITELLYA!
Seriously...we loved us some Acts of the Apostles and all of that shite.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:15 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Merry Christmas, Jeff!
I'm just a sinner, deserving of the death that Christ took upon Himself. I've got a lot to repent for everyday, but I'm glad Jesus was incarnated so that He could obey the law in my stead and make the way possible for eternal life.
I'm just a sinner, deserving of the death that Christ took upon Himself. I've got a lot to repent for everyday, but I'm glad Jesus was incarnated so that He could obey the law in my stead and make the way possible for eternal life.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:23 pm to DawgsLife
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Not sure i would call 40,00-50,000 large, especially when you had MUCH larger cities l;ike Rome and such. but, this is not Jefferson's narrative. This is a poem or thoughts by someone else. he was merely sharing it with us.
I mean, yea, there were cities bigger than Jerusalem at the time but it was still pretty large compared to the population which would have been around 150 million.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:26 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Your irrational fear of cities and loathing of the people that live there aside, solid post Jeff.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:30 pm to DawgsLife
Jerusalem was a large city. I can't cite an actual number, but I would say around the time of christ 60-80,000 would be significantlly large, particularly for the 1st century ad. Rome was by far the largest city in the world with a pop of somewhere around 1 million and nothing else was even close.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 12/21/14 at 5:34 pm to gatorhata9
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Jerusalem
It was the capitol of Israel, and home to King Solomon's temple until it was burned down by Nebuchadnezzar II after the Siege of Jerusalem in 587 BCE.
It was a big city.
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