re: NOA

Whiskey and Deadwood. Works every time.

I'm surprised they announced they'd fight for Freeze. Vitter gets a mulligan and can clean house and start over before it effects his career. Freeze will never be able to recruit like he used to, even if he wins against some of the charges he wants to fight. The Momma's who loved his Christian family atmosphere won't buy the BS anymore and trust him to take care of and develop their kids. The court of public opinion is all that matters on that front, and he's been burned to the ground. Also, from Vitter's standpoint, Freeze is responsible as CEO for his assistants and the kids. Even if he wins the personal charges levied against him and all two hundred thirty violations are pinned on assistants, he would at best still be guilty of gross mismanagement by letting them run wild.

People keep bringing up "They didn't find anything new on Tunsil" and "All they found was the Leo Lewis situation" and they just don't get it. The NCAA has publicly said they're not going to give an SMU like death penalty anymore and pretty much the most severe penalties they are going to dish out are what we're expecting. They didn't need to dig deeper in Tunsil or any other recruit. With the Leo Lewis deal, they got what wa needed to hammer us to the max they are willing to go. They knew shite was fishy in Oxford, found a smoking gun, and now are penalizing us for it. If they didn't find the LL deal, they would have dug deeper and gotten Tunsil or someone else. They didn't need to get anymore evidence against us so they just stopped. Don't be naive and think this is all they found, it's just all they needed.

I don't disagree but I'm a little pissed that the SEC commissioner hasn't thrown his
weight around. At this point I kinda hope Ole Miss uses every bit of leverage they have
up to dropping the dime on any other SEC program with MSU top of the list. Show
how the NCAA has a vendetta against Ole Miss but won't touch the cash cows of
the SEC.

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To kind of elaborate, they probably already had proof on the Leo deal. I think we are too quick to assume they offered immunity because the needed proof, the fact is they aren't threatening a kids eligibility if they don't already know what happened.

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I have some ocean front property in Arkansas to sell you if you really believe that. It was a 5 year investigation and they had to offer immunity to rival school player's to tie up loose strings. This is the same organization that "leaked" information on the investigation to rival beat writers left and right for the duration of the investigation. You think the NCAA just was giving out that information just to be friendly? You don't think there wasn't anything recipercated to get that information? I mean I play the same game in the business world. The old saying is "there are no free lunches"....that being said there was some people pointing the NCAA towards LL and it wasn't from the Ole Miss camp.

The Lewis deal was widely known as it was happening. So it isn't like they had to be tipped off to it.

The distinction here is kind of irrelevant. I'm just explaining that with immunity they aren't necessarily looking for "proof", they could easily just use it to gather more details and connect the dots. AKA screw the offending organization harder.

Hearing some interesting stuff. I guess there is some information in the interviews via the players granted immunity that sort of puts some of their allegations in question. Then again not sure if any posi-rumors are believable and don't think it matters in the long run because I think that the NCAA is out for blood.

Could be big in trying to go from LOIC and show cause to the acceptance of the one year bowl ban and just adding more scholarships.

The state guy is more credible? The ole miss insiders are garbage.. Or told not to say anything... But the state guy credible?
He's been feeding the NCAA investigators information. And facilitating things...
He has zero credibility