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re: Will America ever come out of the dark ages and lower the drinking age?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:00 pm to scrooster
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:00 pm to scrooster
Does anybody else see the irony in scrooster telling us how bad liberalism is and then following that up with a narrowing of rights? If you think the voting age should be raised and the liberty of drinking shouldn't be expanded to people who are treated legally as adults in other ways (talking about 18 year olds) then you are a nanny stater, plain and simple.
The issues you are passionate about might be different, but in philosophy scrooster=Michael Bloomberg.
The issues you are passionate about might be different, but in philosophy scrooster=Michael Bloomberg.
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:07 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Will America ever come out of the dark ages and legalize marijuana nation wide?
FIFY
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:12 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Side note: In Wisconsin minors can drink with their parents at bars/restaurants.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:14 pm to JasoNdaTiger
I would venture that weed will be legalized nation wide before lowering the drinking age.
all drugs and alcohol should fall strictly under state law and the fed should have no say about it.
all drugs and alcohol should fall strictly under state law and the fed should have no say about it.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:18 pm to Pavoloco83
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If you start drinking around 16-18 you'll be more ready to handle alcohol when you're older
Thats bullshite.
Not even a little.
Kids need to learn the effects and if yo ustart them at a younger age, they will be better prepared.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:20 pm to heartbreakTiger
Medical marijuana and legalization of small amounts is a step forward, but making hemp a pillar of our society is the real change we should seek.
Unfortunately we probably won't see that type of change, too many powerful industries would become obsolete if hemp was used as it should.
Unfortunately we probably won't see that type of change, too many powerful industries would become obsolete if hemp was used as it should.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:21 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Side note: In Wisconsin minors can drink with their parents at bars/restaurants.
Texas too. The vendor can choose not to serve the kid if they want. I worked as a waiter for years and only chose not to once or twice because I could tell the parent was already drunk.
I personally think that it's fine where it's at. Kids are still making stupid decisions at that age. I'm all for decriminilization of pot at 21, but if you think opening up alcohol to younger kids is a good idea I don't know what to tell you, in my opinion nothing could be further from the truth.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:31 pm to 3nOut
why not let each state choose the age? one answer for 50 states is stupid. I take the same approach with healthcare, drugs and most other issues. The fed should be their for defense and a few other things that work better with one system instead of 50. It should also provide a few guide lines for health care so that while it varies state to state it can protect someone that gets ill away from home.
of course we will never see this because going to a true federalist system would erode the power of the already over reaching federal gov. It would also put plenty of useless workers out of a job
of course we will never see this because going to a true federalist system would erode the power of the already over reaching federal gov. It would also put plenty of useless workers out of a job
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:45 pm to heartbreakTiger
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why not let each state choose the age?
As long as the resident has clemency and states respect each other for the most part, I'd agree.
I think there's a bit of problem that the age of consent regarding sex and state.
What's legal in Georgia should not get you put on the sex registry in California.
Conversely, what's legal in your home state should allow you to do what you want in another state -- barring firearms.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:45 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
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Does anybody else see the irony in scrooster telling us how bad liberalism is and then following that up with a narrowing of rights? If you think the voting age should be raised and the liberty of drinking shouldn't be expanded to people who are treated legally as adults in other ways (talking about 18 year olds) then you are a nanny stater, plain and simple.
The issues you are passionate about might be different, but in philosophy scrooster=Michael Bloomberg.
I fail to see the irony.
I simply believe we wise and elderly men, (heterosexual and gender specific), should be in control of the world. Race is not the issue.
Mental capacity, the ability to reason logically, and common fricking sense, they are the issue.
Soldiers earn their rights. Everyone else can frick off until they are 25 and only then if they are paying their taxes and not living-off-of Uncle Sugar's teet.
Why we give welfare recipients the right to vote is beyond my comprehension. We pay people to breed ... that's bad enough. But we pay their asses to keep voting liberal.
We're losing. No, wait, let me rephrase that.
We've lost. We're fricked.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:48 pm to heartbreakTiger
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of course we will never see this because going to a true federalist system would erode the power of the already over reaching federal gov
You mean the overreaching state-corporate complex. There is no such thing as the fed government, the mutation to a corporate-government entity has long been completed.
If the average citizens that are caught up in the left vs right (big vs small gov't) game ever came to truly realize this we'd have reason to be hopeful.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 3:50 pm to scrooster
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Why we give welfare recipients the right to vote is beyond my comprehension.
Why do we give welfare to corporations?
Because they hire people, duh.
But those people get paid so low they need gov't assistance.
#Walmart
You're a lost old man.
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I simply believe we wise and elderly men, (heterosexual and gender specific), should be in control of the world. Race is not the issue.
The faster your kind can die off the better.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:00 pm to heartbreakTiger
Yes, we need more 18 year old's drinking and driving.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:08 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Why do we give welfare to corporations?
Because they hire people, duh.
But those people get paid so low they need gov't assistance.
#Walmart
You're a lost old man.
The faster your kind can die off the better.
Goshdamn you're a dyed-in-the-wool living and breathing born and bred dumbfrick.
I'll be lulzing at what's left of you dumbfricks when they are dumping my ashes in the ocean before the big party begins on the boat being rented for my wake.
My kids, their kids, they'll all be laughing at your bitter shite-for-free mentality arse too.
No matter how it all turns-out after I'm gone ... the one thing I learned long ago is that none of us have control over any of it ... but I damned sure know that in the end the ones that work for it enjoyed the trip better than the hand-out-taking little snot-nosed dick riders.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:11 pm to kywildcatfanone
do they not do that now?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:16 pm to heartbreakTiger
Yes, but not as many as there would be. Don't we have enough people drinking and driving?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:17 pm to kywildcatfanone
no we don't have enough people drinking and driving. I don't believe there would be a serious up tick. 18 year olds drink if they want to drink. There really aren't very many that want to drink that can't find away to do so. So it wont really increase drunk driving.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:18 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Yes, but not as many as there would be
Is there some evidence to back that up or are you just stating your feelings?
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:19 pm to heartbreakTiger
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why not let each state choose the age? one answer for 50 states is stupid. I take the same approach with healthcare, drugs and most other issues. The fed should be their for defense and a few other things that work better with one system instead of 50. It should also provide a few guide lines for health care so that while it varies state to state it can protect someone that gets ill away from home.
i'm actually a big fan of that and have advocated for it in the past.
you want a state with no drugs, no abortion, no gay marriage, but maybe lower drinking age and no state taxes? go to texas
you want pot, abortion, gay marriage, and high taxes? go to california.
pot, no abortion, gay marriage? go to colorado.
not a terrible idea.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 4:24 pm to 3nOut
quote:it is a great idea. however most americans on both sides are too fricking stupid to understand why it is great.
not a terrible idea.
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