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re: Who else doesn't give a crap about Black History Month?

Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:14 am to
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:14 am to
It was taught in Virginia when I was in school. I had no problem with it then, and I still don't. I learned a lot from it.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:15 am to
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My ancestors were slaves


Not in America.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:26 am to
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Gonna blow it all on crack


FIFY
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:28 am to
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And here comes the white guilt


Actually complaining about BHM displays more guilt than facing the atrocities committed on blacks by our white ancestors. Usually when you feel guilty over something you want to keep it hidden from the world.
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:39 am to
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Gonna blow it all on crack


FIFY




Ah. Yes. Quite.

Thx for helping my street cred, Duke
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:09 am to
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Actually complaining about BHM displays more guilt than facing the atrocities committed on blacks by our white ancestors. Usually when you feel guilty over something you want to keep it hidden from the world.


Yes, because the only reason people would complain is because of guilt of something their ancestors committed.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:11 am to
I don't know why anybody would complain. If Black History Month has any negative impact on your life, you take things too seriously.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:18 am to
All I complained about was that it should be (as with anything else) integrated into the curriculum throughout the year in schools instead of taking away from instruction directed towards the standardized testing that in this state defines whether a teacher will keep their job. Having proctored during the KPREP here, there is very little Black History Month content on the test unfortunately. So you're telling teachers (and they really push it here) they have to give up instruction days for celebration field trips and such.

So yes, I have an issue with it.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 11:20 am
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:26 am to
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All I complained about was that it should be (as with anything else) integrated into the curriculum throughout the year in schools instead of taking away from instruction directed towards the standardized testing that in this state defines whether a teacher will keep their job.


Sounds like your problem is with the standardized testing system, which is a valid complaint.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:28 am to
Not particularly. It covers a wide range of content but we're dedicating a month of instruction to a small portion of the content on the test.

ETA: I don't feel that at this point African American history should outweigh any of the other content. That apparently pisses people off because it's not PC. And that's fine.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 11:32 am
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:33 am to
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It covers a wide range of content but we're dedicating a month of instruction to a small portion of the content on the test.



The whole month is just dedicated to Black History Month? I doubt that, though I can see the potential for overemphasis on the subject. The problem I see is such a high stakes test. The result is something like BHM being overly burdensome on teachers trying to keep their jobs.

You have a reasonable complaint, but it is due to the rules and expectations of the job. It could be German History Month and you'd have the same problem right?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:39 am to
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You have a reasonable complaint, but it is due to the rules and expectations of the job. It could be German History Month and you'd have the same problem right?


If the content was pushed as hard where a majority of the content is focused on it, absolutely. And of course here they're expected to take trips to the Muhammed Ali Center and to Stage One for plays and that's even more time out of the classroom. If parents wish to do that with their children outside of the classroom the so be it. But at this point that much time shouldn't be dedicated to one particular history month.

And that's the issue. Whether it's a week or a month's worth of content when you work in a low performing school you need every little bit geared towards the test (and I do have issues with the test as well but that's a whole other discussion).
Posted by 5thTiger
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:56 am to
I think it is good for kids today to learn about some of the social injustices that occurred in our country. Is designating a month to that cause the best way about it? Probably not, but it definitely raises awareness.

America is general tends to forget about the dark spots on our resume. Native Americans, Civil Rights, etc.

Excellent clip from excellent show

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:12 pm to
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And that's the issue. Whether it's a week or a month's worth of content when you work in a low performing school you need every little bit geared towards the test


But you take off a week for Thanksgiving, two weeks for Christmas and a week for spring break. That's a month right there when you aren't doing anything. Should you cut out that vacation time to prepare for these standardized tests?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:23 pm to
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But you take off a week for Thanksgiving, two weeks for Christmas and a week for spring break. That's a month right there when you aren't doing anything. Should you cut out that vacation time to prepare for these standardized tests?


No. Do you think students should go to school every Monday-Friday with no breaks for 18+ years?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:25 pm to
I place BHM just below Chinese history month, Italian history month, Irish history month, German history month, Arab history month, Mexican history month, Cuban history month, British history month, Scottish history month, Slavic history month, Scandinavian history month, Canadian history month and, oh - errrrr - wait ....
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:29 pm to
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No


So being in the classroom and learning about American history is bad, but sitting at home doing nothing is fine.

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Do you think students should go to school every Monday-Friday with no breaks for 18+ years?


Three months in the summer is a pretty good break.

And if your students are in grade school for 18+ years, you have a lot more problems than standardized testing.
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:25 pm to
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Yes, because the only reason people would complain is because of guilt of something their ancestors committed.


And the only reason white people recognize BHM is because they feel guilty, right?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:45 pm to
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So being in the classroom and learning about American history is bad, but sitting at home doing nothing is fine.


You never answered my question. Of course. Schooling without breaks would hurt productivity. But we're not talking about breaks. We're talking about content being taught that they're not tested on and taking up curriculum time that should be geared towards the test.

But of course that doesn't fit your's or Spleen's passive aggressive "Belle is racist" agenda.

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And if your students are in grade school for 18+ years, you have a lot more problems than standardized testing.


Did I reference only grade school?
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:46 pm to
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And the only reason white people recognize BHM is because they feel guilty, right?


Never did I make that suggestion. You're the one, like Stonehog, passive aggressively throwing around that people are racist because they disagree with the implementation of Black History Month.

Thanks for being everything that's wrong with this country today. We do appreciate it.
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