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re: So you want 15$ an hour for working a register at McDonalds?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:11 am to The Spleen
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Interesting. The majority of workers I've seen at Panera and Chick Fil A are white, while most at McDonald's are black or Hispanic.
Interesting. So are you saying most blacks and Hispanics can't consistently provide good customer service and manage to not screw up an order or are you just trying to passive aggressively call me a racist because I'd rather see a $15 wage go to workers who provide good customer service and rarely screw up an order?
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Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:12 am to CarolinaCock
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Depends if the cost of living warrants 15bucks an hour so be it
It does, but that includes mandatory things such as high-speed internet, cable, and your iphone with a 10 gig/month plan.
That's how these kids see it, anyway.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:15 am to Lordofwrath88
I worked the register at McDonalds for a few weeks in college. 99% of the time it was a cakewalk. The 1% was opening Sunday morning when all those demanding crotchety old men wanted their cup of discounted coffee NOW dammit. I have never been treated so poorly in a work condition in my entire life.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:19 am to cardboardboxer
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The 1% was opening Sunday morning when all those demanding crotchety old men wanted their cup of discounted coffee NOW dammit.
I worked at a roller skating rink in HS and on Sunday mornings we had a senior skate. My boss provided them free coffee but if that shite wasn't brewed to perfection you were going to hear about it. All. Damn. Morning.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:20 am to Lordofwrath88
So, if they work for such low pay that their wages aren't enough to support them, and they therefore ask for food stamps or other assistance, they're lazy good-for-nothing leeches. If they ask for higher pay for their work so they don't need public assistance, they're greedy, entitled bastards. I guess they should just do the decent thing and work their asses off until they starve to death.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:35 am to Nuts4LSU
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I guess they should just do the decent thing and work their asses off until they starve to death.
Or they could just do like the rest of us and work well, build experience and references, and shop for better jobs.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:37 am to BluegrassBelle
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My boss provided them free coffee but if that shite wasn't brewed to perfection you were going to hear about it. All. Damn. Morning.
I bet. They would always hound me for their senior citizen discount (which is like 30 cents on coffee) and then DEMAND that I serve their coffee before I served customers who ordered before them (and who actually ordered food). Had one old a-hole complain to a manager because I wasn't moving fast enough for him, even though he physically couldn't move that fast.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:40 am to BluegrassBelle
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So are you saying most blacks and Hispanics can't consistently provide good customer service and manage to not screw up an order
Nope. I've gotten poor service and screwed up orders at eating establishments all across the board, even the almighty Chick Fil A.
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just trying to passive aggressively call me a racist because I'd rather see a $15 wage go to workers who provide good customer service and rarely screw up an order?
Nope. I just found the opinion interesting.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:42 am to Nuts4LSU
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So, if they work for such low pay that their wages aren't enough to support them, and they therefore ask for food stamps or other assistance, they're lazy good-for-nothing leeches. If they ask for higher pay for their work so they don't need public assistance, they're greedy, entitled bastards.
The problem is raising the minimum wage is a regressive tax, as it increases the cost of living for basic goods and services (like McDonalds) that the same people who get the raise rely on.
A much better plan is what the government did with the car companies- keep them afloat via government subsidy which can be funneled from a different part of the tax base (aka "the rich").
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:43 am to PrivatePublic
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Or they could just do like the rest of us and work well, build experience and references, and shop for better jobs.
And just eat next year or the year after, when they've built up that experience and gotten that better job?
Bottom tier jobs constitute something like 20-25% of all jobs. By definition, 20-25% of all workers will always be in this kind of job. Those people have to eat. How do you want them to do it if you don't want them getting public assistance and you don't want them getting higher pay for their work?
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:50 am to The Spleen
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Nope. I've gotten poor service and screwed up orders at eating establishments all across the board, even the almighty Chick Fil A.
That's odd. I haven't and I've eaten at Chick Fil As from here in Louisvile down to Florida (and more than a few times in Mississippi, especially when the SO was still in college). The same can be said for Panera. I don't know many people who have had bad experiences at either.
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Nope. I just found the opinion interesting.
And what exactly do you find "interesting" about it? I don't see what's all that interesting about wanting to reward employees of companies who from my experience (and I'm pretty sure several others would agree on those experiences) have consistently provided the service worthy of $15 an hour.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 9:52 am to Nuts4LSU
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By definition, half of all workers will always be in the bottom 50% of jobs. Those people have to eat. How do you want them to do it if you don't want them getting public assistance and you don't want them getting higher pay for their work?
If they're not making that much they likely qualify for a Pell Grant and can go to community college for next to free. Go back to school, like a CC, and get a valuable certification where you can get something better than working the front line at McDonalds.
ETA: And I say this as someone who grew up in a household where I'm the first to go to college and am currently back in school at 33 to better my position.
This post was edited on 5/28/15 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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I haven't and I've eaten at Chick Fil As from here in Louisvile down to Florida (and more than a few times in Mississippi, especially when the SO was still in college). The same can be said for Panera.
You should go buy a lottery ticket with that luck.
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And what exactly do you find "interesting" about it?
The demographics of the stores you cited.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:01 am to Nuts4LSU
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So, if they work for such low pay that their wages aren't enough to support them, and they therefore ask for food stamps or other assistance, they're lazy good-for-nothing leeches. If they ask for higher pay for their work so they don't need public assistance, they're greedy, entitled bastards. I guess they should just do the decent thing and work their asses off until they starve to death. This post was edited on 5/28 at 9:21 am
This is the very basic thing many ppl fail to realize or don't want to acknowledge
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:04 am to The Spleen
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You should go buy a lottery ticket with that luck.
Pretty sure Chick fil a is pretty well known for their above average service for a fast food joint. Sounds like you're the one with shitty "luck".
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The demographics of the stores you cited.
What does that have to do with being able to provide service that elicits $15 an hour?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:24 am to BluegrassBelle
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If they're not making that much they likely qualify for a Pell Grant and can go to community college for next to free. Go back to school, like a CC, and get a valuable certification where you can get something better than working the front line at McDonalds.
You are missing the point. Someone will always be working in those bottom tier jobs. Whoever they are, they have to eat. If they aren't supposed to ask for public assistance and they aren't supposed to ask for a pay raise, how in the hell are they supposed to eat?
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:27 am to BluegrassBelle
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Pretty sure Chick fil a is pretty well known for their above average service for a fast food joint
Good for them. Doesn't mean their immune to screw ups.
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What does that have to do with being able to provide service that elicits $15 an hour?
I don't know. You're the one that made the claim that certain fast food employees deserve to make $15 per hour over others. I just made the observation that it was interesting the two you cited, in my experience, employed predominantly white employees, which seemed to get your panties in a wad.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:37 am to Nuts4LSU
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So, if they work for such low pay that their wages aren't enough to support them, and they therefore ask for food stamps or other assistance, they're lazy good-for-nothing leeches. If they ask for higher pay for their work so they don't need public assistance, they're greedy, entitled bastards. I guess they should just do the decent thing and work their asses off until they starve to death.
Yup. Those are the only two options.
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:47 am to The Spleen
I can't remember ever having an order screwed up at Chickfila, either....
Posted on 5/28/15 at 10:50 am to pankReb
They don't listen to my request for extra pickles 75% of the time. It's probably because I'm gay.
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