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re: Ole Miss student senate votes to remove state flag.

Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:11 pm to
And I never said anyone was.

And lol at you correcting someone's "grammar" on a slang compound word (on a message board).
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
btw Ole Miss only gets about 20% of it's funding from the state and that keeps shrinking.


It would be worth it in the long run for all of the state funding to be cut so long as we no longer have to be under total control from the IHL.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Carolina Tide
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:13 pm to
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The flag represents States Rights, the damn Civil War was not about Slavery and some people really need to go back and read there history books. The north was getting there arse kicked until the French made them give up there slaves for support.



Sounds like you need to pick up an English book instead.


Also I went to mostly white schools in the Deep South and every history book that I have ever read said that the Civil War dealt with slavery.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:20 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:14 pm to
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And lol at you correcting someone's "grammar" on a slang compound word (on a message board).




I was merely poking fun at him attempting to claim victory in what he considers to be a battle of wits.


"Outgunned" isn't slang. That's actually a legitimate word.
Posted by rebelcommodore
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:15 pm to
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I second your movement effective Sunday morning, when I will also request equal treatment in the removal of Spav for the same reason.



I thought Spav was some sort of genius OC?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:16 pm to
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Also I went to mostly white schools in the Deep South and every history book that I ever read said that the Civil War dealt with slavery.





You must not have taken the Revisionist History 101 course...

It clearly says that the North was a bunch of meanies and that the South was full of "didn't do nothins"
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:20 pm to
Why don't you improve your logic and actually make your point instead of acting like you know what the frick you are talking about and attacking iphone typing skills.

And it's not a grammatical error. It's impropper useage. You don't know frick-all about grammar, style, and/or useage. Your most obvious is your improper use of the elliptical. And if you want to get really technical, "outgunned" could be "out-gunned" "out gunned" in that particular sentence, depending on context, but I bet you can't tell me how. I bet you think "anytime" is the same thing as "any time" don't you?

So, stop trying to unsuccessfully prove to everybiody that you are smart and make your fricking point. Otherwise, I will assume you have no point.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:22 pm to
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I don't give a sh!t about the confederate flag. If it pisses off a good bit of the population, remove it for the greater good.


People didn't get pissed off until the age of internet, facebook, twitter, etc. Now it's a powder keg. I've never heard ONE black person down south complain about that flag, now all of a sudden they are upset. lmao.
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:25 pm to
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The flag represents States Rights, the damn Civil War was not about Slavery and some people really need to go back and read there history books. The north was getting there arse kicked until the French made them give up there slaves for support.




Sounds like you need to pick up an English book instead.


Also I went to mostly white schools in the Deep South and every history book that I have ever read said that the Civil War dealt with slavery.


Shall we remind him "State's Rights to own slaves, States rights to have segregation, etc." Reason why the flag was popular with racist, segregationists, etc. They could have easily waived the American Flag while cursing at blacks, spitting on them, etc. I mean there was segregation in Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, etc. Those people weren't waiving confederate flags at blacks.

"State's rights" to keep negroes out of our schools, diners, etc.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Why don't you improve your logic and actually make your point



If I were to make my point to you, it wouldn't effect my logic at all. My logic stays constant with that. It would, however, improve your level of logical thinking if I were to prove my point and you understand it.


It's much too enjoyable watching you smash your hands on your keyboard in an attempt to prove whatever illogical point you've been trying to make.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Shall we remind him "State's Rights to own slaves, States rights to have segregation, etc." Reason why the flag was popular with racist, segregationists, etc.



correct.

Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:41 pm to
I'm not understanding the vitriol to only Ole Miss here. Didn't Dan Mullen come outright and say that State doesn't fly the flag either?
Posted by chickenpotpie
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:45 pm to
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CJ Johnson's quote also puts it in perspective:

"It sickens me when I see [a Confederate flag] on people’s cars on campus. If you have the Confederate flag on your vehicle, you have a problem,” Johnson said. “And I don't care if it's socially what you believe in or it's morally what you believe in or you're just doing it for s---s and giggles. It's just the fact of what it stands for. It's almost like you might as well put a tag on the front of your car that says 'n-----.' That's really what it boils down to. You might as well just put a big tag on the front of your car or hang a big flag on the back of your car and just say the N-word.”


So much stupid in that quote. Another obtuse person that thinks the rebel flag is unequivocally synonymous with racial hatred. He also ignores the fact that the "N word" is used more by the black populace than any other sect. Just because you mispronounce & misspell the word, it doesn't change the meaning. If it is so offensive, then don't use it in any shape or form. Stop your own culture from using it first, then focus on others. You're just showing your ignorance when you berate others for doing something you continue to do yourself.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
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People didn't get pissed off until the age of internet, facebook, twitter, etc.



Not sure if you're serious, but I graduated high school in 1991(before the internet) and it was a controversial flag even then. It was more accepted then, but there were arguments over it. Hell, it wasn't removed from the ALabama state capitol building until 1993, and even then it took a court order to remove it.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
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The idea behind the Confederacy in general was for state rights. It had nothing to do with slavery but every damn liberal in the world would want you to think that. The flag represents States Rights, the damn Civil War was not about Slavery and some people really need to go back and read there history books.

You couldn't be more wrong, or ironic.

The fact is that one of the main differences between the US Constitution and the CS Constitution is the fact that in the Confederacy, a State did not retain the right to abolish slavery within its borders.

That right there limits states' rights, not expand them.

"We have dissolved the late Union chiefly because of the negro quarrel."

- Robert Hardy Smith, Alabama State Senator, 1861

I wish you boys would stop taking the single most enlightened, humanitarian thing this nation has done in its history, and pervert it into something vile. Quit revising OUR history, and go form your confederacy somewhere outside of the United States of America. WE won, you lost.

Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:50 pm to
What a bunch of uniformed, brain-washed, spineless, excuses for men and women.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:56 pm to

From the posting guidelines for this site:

quote:


Q: May I use an image of the Confederate battle flag as my avatar and/or signature image?
A: No.


I encourage all of you defenders of Mississippi's state flag to use it as your avatar.

Chicken is a commie who doesn't believe in free speech.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Still not relevant since the rebel flag in this context =/= white supremacy.

That statement is blatantly false, and no amount of you saying otherwise will make it so.
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Why are you insinuating that I'm a racist?

Because you think this:
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the rebel flag in this context =/= white supremacy

That symbol stands for white supremacy and oppression for 40% of the residents of Mississippi. You seem to think that 40% is irrelevant.
quote:

a dean of a school accidentally says "All lives matter" instead of "Black lives matter".

Now YOU'RE dabbling in irrelevancy.
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Why is it so fricking hard to come up with a flag that everyone likes?
Again, that's not particularly relevant to this discussion.

Really?

Try reading the thread title:

Ole Miss student senate votes to remove state flag.

If the state had a non-controversial flag, such as the one Louisiana proudly files, the students at the State University would not have taken a vote. Is that really hard for you to understand?

Mississippi has a flag with a symbol of racial oppression to 40% of the state's population.

The students at the University of Mississippi vote not to fly the flag due to the symbol of oppression.

If Mississippi had a flag with no symbol of oppression for a large minority of the population, they would not have had to have the vote.
Posted by oneusairman
somewhereville
Member since Apr 2009
568 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Also I went to mostly white schools in the Deep South and every history book that I have ever read said that the Civil War dealt with slavery.


That's nice you obviously didn't pay attention, so let me educate you real quick. The succession of South Carolina from the Union started the Civil War. By the time Lincoln got into office Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and Texas succeeded shortly followed by Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Arkansas. Now slavery was one issue but there was a host of other issues that cause these states to succeed. Overall Social and Economics were mainly the problem and the belief that states have the right to govern themselves. True the southern states wanted to keep slavery but more so what they wanted was the ability to make there own laws and not have the federal government trump those rights. See this is the problem when you people look back on history and only see the slavery when there was a bigger and broader picture then just that one aspect.

Why did Lincoln wait until after the start of the Civil War to make the emancipation proclamation? Why did the north at the time specifically New Jersey have slaves as well? Also why did the North give the slaves back to the Southern states during the war when they fled across the boarder? Oh and how much did you know about this from your grade school history class?

BTW I am not referring back to this information from grade school or even high school but from college classes where I have had over 12 hours in US History and numerous papers and research on the subject.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/21/15 at 2:02 pm to
Good on the OM student senate
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