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re: Memphis man, reportedly hogtied by police, dies in Mississippi

Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:00 pm to
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The police are hoping they get a sympathetic ME at this point and get a "drug-induced" death rather than anything asphyxiation related.


Well, depending on the severity of the man's asthma condition, asphyxiation may be impossible to ignore. Yes, the type of drug(s) he was using may provide an alternate cause of death but, from what we're seeing so far, it surely seems his asthma is culpable.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:02 pm to
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The police are hoping they get a sympathetic ME at this point and get a "drug-induced" death rather than anything asphyxiation related.



Unless he was asphyxiating for two hours inside a hospital, I can assure you no one has to hope for anything.


He died two fricking hours later.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:06 pm to
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He died two fricking hours later


It's beyond me how people just gloss over this part of the story.

Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:08 pm to
Well, that's because obviously the police wanted to kill him.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:10 pm to
It was Greg Davis' fault. He and the queers running Desoto county needed this as a false flag
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:12 pm to
His family was informed of his death two hours later. I'm not certain his actual time of death has been released. And I'm not certain that's going to remove asphyxia as a contributing cause to his death either.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Unless he was asphyxiating for two hours inside a hospital


That's entirely possible. Hospital staff aren't miracle workers. There isn't much they could do for someone whose lungs are extremely inflamed and filling with mucus.

My prediction is that an examination will determine that the man set his course towards death by using drugs and alcohol which then caused the severe asthma episode. The arrest and restraint by the police officers should only be listed as a footnote in the incident, not the cause of his death.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:15 pm to
What is it with Mizzou and conspiracy theories?

He took what he thought was LSD. He went crazy. He died.

It's really that simple.

I can let you borrow a razor if you need to. It's an Occam. Got it on sale at Target.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:18 pm to
I don't get why people can't grasp the concept of if you have asthma don't take drugs that will likely exacerbate your condition to the point of a full blown attack. Especially one that is known to alter consciousness.

It's really unfortunate that someone is likely burying their child. But at some point personal responsibility when you know you have a medical condition needs to come into play as well.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:18 pm to
There's no conspiracy theory. The position of the victim at the time his breathing or pulse first drops is the important point for the investigation. Not when all life-saving efforts have ceased. You're assuming a whole shitload of things you simply don't know.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:20 pm to
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I don't get why people can't grasp the concept of if you have asthma don't take drugs that will likely exacerbate your condition to the point of a full blown attack. Especially one that is known to alter consciousness.


I totally agree. And police, when arresting a known asthmatic who has used drugs, should never ever ever ever use a hogtie.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:21 pm to
He was a dad too as I recall. It's a terrible situation but he is the one who is ultimately responsible and I'm not one to defend LEOs.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:28 pm to
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There's no conspiracy theory. The position of the victim at the time his breathing or pulse first drops is the important point for the investigation. Not when all life-saving efforts have ceased. You're assuming a whole shitload of things you simply don't know.





I can assure you, I know more about the situation than you.

This happened in my backyard so to speak.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:31 pm to
Awesome. Now you just need to brush up on your restraint asphyxia knowledge and you'll be good to go.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:36 pm to
I'll just do what you did and read 50 Shades of Grey and a David Carradine biography.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:41 pm to
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I can let you borrow a razor if you need to. It's an Occam. Got it on sale at Target.



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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:24 pm to
It was a good line.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:20 pm to
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He died two hours later at a hospital.

He was on LSD.

He got out of a car at a red light and was attempting to break into a police car.



I feel bad for the kids and wife, but I have not one ounce of sympathy for this dude. If someone on my street was running out on a bad trip and threatened the safety of myself or my family, I would be very upset if the police didn't restrain them immediately upon arriving on scene. I don't give a shite about calming the dude down so he doesn't hurt himself. You took a mind altering drug knowing full well the possible consequences. I'd rather the police focus on protecting the safety of the people the drug user's dumb arse might hurt than making sure he is calm and safely tripping out.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 2:20 pm to
When you're hog tied is your head and neck restrained from turning as well?
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