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Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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. In April of 2011 I saw blacks and whites giving each other the shirts off their backs, and that's all that matters to me. So I don't particularly care how the past is perceived
Exactly.
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few Alabamians give it much thought
Unless there is political gain to be made from it.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:04 pm to MykTide
My kids - my family move to Selma when I was in the 7th grade. I graduated HS in1989.
My parents sold there house in the mid 90s. We still have property between Selma and Montgomery that they have built a house on recently.
I agree with what you said about the town. I didn't know much of the history of Selma when I moved there and was shocked at some of the stories I was told about the 60s & 70s.
I was shocked when school was cancelled when Coach Bryant died. I didn't really even know much about him at that time. Wasn't a Bama fan growing up prior to moving to AL. Obviously, I became a fan and that is where I have my degree from but man, it was weird to me when everyone was crying and freaking out when he died.
For the most part people from Selma are not any more racist than those from anywhere else. the majority of the people I worked with at my father's business were AA and we're very nice to me and I was to then. I was raised to respect people, race doesn't matter, people matter.
Ad for the OP's questions, i got a lot of people assuming that I was a racist just because of where I was from. It was a horrible feeling and I decided to just call Tuscaloosa my home when asked by people from other states. It was just easier and I didn't get a stigma just because of where I had lived and was more accepted. This happened a lot when I had traveled to Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and other western states when I was younger and still in college. There are a lot of nice people from Selma and it was a pretty fun town when I was in hs.
My parents sold there house in the mid 90s. We still have property between Selma and Montgomery that they have built a house on recently.
I agree with what you said about the town. I didn't know much of the history of Selma when I moved there and was shocked at some of the stories I was told about the 60s & 70s.
I was shocked when school was cancelled when Coach Bryant died. I didn't really even know much about him at that time. Wasn't a Bama fan growing up prior to moving to AL. Obviously, I became a fan and that is where I have my degree from but man, it was weird to me when everyone was crying and freaking out when he died.
For the most part people from Selma are not any more racist than those from anywhere else. the majority of the people I worked with at my father's business were AA and we're very nice to me and I was to then. I was raised to respect people, race doesn't matter, people matter.
Ad for the OP's questions, i got a lot of people assuming that I was a racist just because of where I was from. It was a horrible feeling and I decided to just call Tuscaloosa my home when asked by people from other states. It was just easier and I didn't get a stigma just because of where I had lived and was more accepted. This happened a lot when I had traveled to Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and other western states when I was younger and still in college. There are a lot of nice people from Selma and it was a pretty fun town when I was in hs.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:25 pm to spacewrangler
Good post, Spacewrangler. Thanks.
I was thinking about the history and the movie and how we see the past now. But, I remember growing up in the 80s in the South, 15-20 years after the events in the movie, and everyone got along pretty well overall. There was still a lot of racism, but no violence.
I was thinking about the history and the movie and how we see the past now. But, I remember growing up in the 80s in the South, 15-20 years after the events in the movie, and everyone got along pretty well overall. There was still a lot of racism, but no violence.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 4:59 pm to AlaTiger
The opening line of The Go Between by L.P. Hartley, 1953, "The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there."
I recommend that you don't restrict yourself to current that cover history. Find some books written in the 50s and even earlier. I'm not talking about black/white relations, but a world view that can be different and interesting.
I recommend that you don't restrict yourself to current that cover history. Find some books written in the 50s and even earlier. I'm not talking about black/white relations, but a world view that can be different and interesting.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 5:04 pm to mauser
He doesn't want to do that. He would think Booker T Washington was the biggest racist ever.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 5:22 pm to AlaTiger
Every state has had race issues not just the southern ones.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 5:28 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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DGAF. I haven't done shite to black people.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 5:29 pm to AlaTiger
quote:I don't feel one way or the other. I really don't care since I wasn't even alive then.
I didn't ask if YOU had done anything. I asked how you felt about the history.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 6:22 pm to AlaTiger
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I didn't ask if YOU had done anything. I asked how you felt about the history.
I'm not the poster you asked this question of, but I'm not going to be brow beaten into feeling guilty for the actions of my ancestors. I haven't owned or mistreated any slaves. Pisses me off when African Americans act like I owe them some reparation or something.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:06 pm to AlaTiger
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Why did white people in the past act that way?
Don't know. That's just how they were raised, which I had no part in.
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Why was it so difficult for them to listen to and grant what King and others were asking for?
It's easier to stay set in your ways than change some huge aspect of your culture or community.
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How does this history on race and knowing that it affected everything, affect how you see the past? Or, does it?
Hindsight is 20/20. There's always a better method of doing something.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:17 pm to rantfan
quote:This is the only "Selma" I care about
She fine
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:36 pm to AlaTiger
I think Selma in 2015 only matters to the white racist, black racists or any other color racists that need to hang on to something that only other racists care about.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:38 pm to stat19
All I know about Selma is that I hope I never have to go there again.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:38 pm to AlaTiger
This black man was born in Alabama.
Married a white girl.
DGAF about the state's sordid past when it comes to race. No skin off my nose. It happened, and there are still racial issues to deal with (just like other parts of the country), but it's not affecting my day to day life, nor will I let it.
Also, don't have plans to see "Selma." I wanna see "Interstellar" again
Married a white girl.
DGAF about the state's sordid past when it comes to race. No skin off my nose. It happened, and there are still racial issues to deal with (just like other parts of the country), but it's not affecting my day to day life, nor will I let it.
Also, don't have plans to see "Selma." I wanna see "Interstellar" again
Posted on 1/10/15 at 7:48 pm to TbirdSpur2010
There's not exactly freedom now just a softer inverted kind of oppression
I want everyone treated equally. I want content of character, not color of skin.
Freedom is not forced segregation or forced diversity.
Freedom is not Jim Crow or affirmative action
Freedom is not laws banning people from education or laws making education compulsory
Freedom is not restrictive voting tests or incentivizing the mass uneducated vote
Freedom is not slavery or the welfare state
I want everyone treated equally. I want content of character, not color of skin.
Freedom is not forced segregation or forced diversity.
Freedom is not Jim Crow or affirmative action
Freedom is not laws banning people from education or laws making education compulsory
Freedom is not restrictive voting tests or incentivizing the mass uneducated vote
Freedom is not slavery or the welfare state
Posted on 1/10/15 at 9:38 pm to AlaTiger
I'm not from Alabama but weird that you only want a historical perspective from white people. That's probably why you are getting defensive responses.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 10:24 pm to AlaTiger
Literally don't have any feelings towards it. I'm only interested in it from a historical prospective because I'm a history geek. It's not like embarrassing segregation and hate only took place in Alabama.
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