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re: designated "oh shite bad weather" thread | at least 5 dead in MS

Posted on 12/23/15 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 7:40 pm to
Damage track from Natl Weather Service
https://t.co/t8XNso7V6Y
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 7:42 pm
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
12036 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 7:46 pm to
Haven't heard from Wishnitwas1998. Hope he's alright. If you can post here to let us know.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:19 pm to
Man, me too. I hate these outbreaks.

Also, it's but a matter of time before we have a serious tornado through Birmingham or Jackson.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:23 pm to
He's fine
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 10:41 pm to
Sorry for not reporting in, had a good friend call me right as it was all about to hit and ask if I had a safe place for him and his 10 yo son to take shelter and we have a badass cinder block 12 X 12 room I had somehow forgotten about til that point. I feel like a moron for not remembering but anyhow I scrambled to find the key and told them to come on and we ended up drinkin beer for the rest of the night. As I thought might happen (so blessed) the two horrible looking cells literally split us and my gfs house was fine as well. Glad to hear yall are all safe and prayers for holly springs. Etc. if this death toll is under 10 I will consider it a miracle and it's looking like that might just happen

ETA: despite splitting the two awful wind signatures by about 10 miles each the worst we got was a shitton of lightening, didn't even rain or have hardly much wind. It was all very weird and in fact the worst of it was in the second line that was just heavy rain, some 30-40 mph straight line and heavy rain in it
This post was edited on 12/23/15 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35619 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:18 pm to
Consider yourself lucky. No rain means you were in the inflow. I'm so glad it missed you.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:29 pm to
I'm no where near experienced enough to say for sure but I swear from studying the radar for both of them I'm not sure I wasn't between the inflow of BOTH strong cells. One of those things where we were standing outside and my buddy isn't real knowledgable about weather and a lot wasn't going on and he goes "lightning as much as this is this is weird but I'm thankful" and my response was "don't say it yet man; pretty sure that means we re real close". I was nervous for quite awhile longer
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:30 pm to
Also feel bad for not responding to yall , just got caught up in their stuff then watching radar for my gf
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:32 pm to
Everyone okay East of the Mississippi River?

Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/23/15 at 11:46 pm to
At least 3 dead in North Ms, have heard about more casualties in Tennessee but can't confirm

As bad as that is, I would've thought it would've been a lot worse
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35619 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:30 am to
I didn't see the radar or know where you were, merely speculating based on your recall of events.

Rain or hail tells you where the downdrafts are happening. Mass cannot be created or destroyed, thus rain means the humidity picked up in an updraft being dropped. Just as lightning tells you the level of instability. Lightning is an expression of energy, which is also not created or destroyed but transformed. More lightning suggests more instability, which is explained by how CAPE or instability depends on Temp gradient up a column. It represents potential lift. Lighting is a sign of the potential lift turned into practical lift.

BTW, I don't think you're dumb. You just lack the physics background I have. If you had my education, you'd be just as adept an amateur as I am. I've seen you say you're not smart enough to explain this stuff. That's false, you lack the education. There is a difference. It's important you remember that, because you can learn it.



You have a natural curiosity. Don't think you're too dumb, but just lack the knowledge. Just means you need more research and observations.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:48 am to
you are right, I absolutely don't think I'm dumb but you are DAMN right I don't have the physics background required. Through all of high school and 4 years of undergrad I have taken exactly 0 physics courses I have a basic understanding that unfortunately is more than most ppl on this weather stuff but that's more a reflection on them than me

Also, I'd just like to share a post I made in the OT thread to sum up my thoughts on the day and with that; I'll see yall tomorrow. As much as the circumstances suck I always enjoy these threads which is why I started this one
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:49 am to
quote:

have grown up loving severe weather while also treating it with the respect it deserves, being from north Missisippi all my life nothing was more terrifying to see than today. I know 24 years isn't a long time to be here for a lot of ppl and I get that but to me this is the worst severe weather day for my local region in my lifetime My jaw literally dropped when I saw the debris field on the tornado that went through Holly Springs, seen plenty of debris fields on radar but not around here. So far it sounds like only 3 or so lives were lost here, which with seeing that speed and rain wrap and size anything less than 10 is an absolute miracle, I am amazed with. A credit to all of the MET services across this state and really everywhere as from what I've seen they all try to work together is due Sorry for being long winded and somewhat dramatic but I just needed to get that all out, unfortunately I know for a fact there are a lot of ppl here right now who don't realize just how close this was to being so, sooooo much worse
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35619 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 12:53 am to
I've taken three semesters of straight physics in college, with an additional year of thermodynamics, a semester of fluid mechanics and in heat and mass transfer.

That's the difference, not your smarts.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 1:11 am to
Yea I've got a friend who is on mechanical engineering and I'll tell you the same thing I've told him, Jesus Christ man idk what half that shite means

That's the difference, business school but damn it was fun
This post was edited on 12/24/15 at 1:12 am
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
12036 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 1:41 am to
Glad to hear you're okay.

And I just got done with a bunch of Physics courses and Fluids. Needless to say I am glad I finished those classes.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58204 posts
Posted on 12/24/15 at 10:23 am to
I would bet so


Just read from the OT thread death count in MS is up to 5 now
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