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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Fishwater
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:43 am to
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One thing I really want is Top Golf.


Yup, Would be awesome to stick it out on 280 on a huge bluff so you hit the balls out into a valley.


I'd also like to see an amphitheater downtown. Oak Mountain is cool and all, but its so damn far from downtown.


Posted by Jma313
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:48 am to
Birmingham is a joke of a cit with terrible night life and nothing to do
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:55 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:56 am to
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Birmingham is a joke of a cit with terrible night life and nothing to do


how often do you go there? What areas do you visit? When was the last time you were there?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:51 am to
Cahaba Heights has an outdoor amphitheater in its master plan. First phase begins this summer.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:52 am to
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Yup, Would be awesome to stick it out on 280 on a huge bluff so you hit the balls out into a valley


I'm thinking that it'd be great somewhere like Avondale/Lakeview area where you had the skyline in the background. That way it could be incorporated into the night life.
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:01 am to
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Cahaba Heights has an outdoor amphitheater in its master plan. First phase begins this summer.


Where in Cahaba Heights?



I think if put a Top Golf in Homewood where 280 hits 31. I'd then sit back and count my money all the live long day
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:15 am to
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Better to build a northern loop and open up that part of the city to further development....that and they need to fix the 280 congestion....why that can't get done I don't understand.


I don't know what they could do. An elevated expressway was proposed years ago but I don't ever see that happening. Too many municipalities would have to get on the same page and there'd be way too many headaches before it was completed.

One problem people in Birmingham have...as well as many American...is that people are way too car centric.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:19 am to
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I think if put a Top Golf in Homewood where 280 hits 31. I'd then sit back and count my money all the live long day


I have a friend who says the exact same thing. Totally agree.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 11:20 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:33 am to
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..that and they need to fix the 280 congestion....why that can't get done I don't understand.


I would love to hear your suggestion as to how to do that. They improved congestion with the last round of improvements, and then 15k more people decided they needed to use the road each day.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:34 am to
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An elevated expressway was proposed years ago but I don't ever see that happening.
Me neither. The money just isn't there.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:56 am to
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I would love to hear your suggestion as to how to do that. They improved congestion with the last round of improvements, and then 15k more people decided they needed to use the road each day.


Make it in effect a sort of tollway with no lights from say Chelsea until it connects with the Red Mountain Expressway and 459. Have access side roads which you enter and exit....seriously its not that difficult to engineer....they need to get all the fricking traffic lights off it and make it a throughway so people can drive unimpeded from Shelby County to 459 or on ito downtown
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:08 pm to
It's way too late to do any of that.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41104 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:11 pm to
Right behind the Chevron off Pumphouse Rd. That neighborhood behind there floods. The city applied for Fed money to buy those houses and turn it into a park with an amphitheater. They close on the first four houses this summer.

The 280 solution is simple: 4 lane Grants Mill Rd from 459 to 119. 4 lane 119 to 65. Create a bypass for people and get them off 280.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:26 pm to
Why is it too late?
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:36 pm to
Trying to think where the access roads would go and the chaos that might occur before the process is ever completed and how much money it would cost. I'd rather them bury 20/59 downtown or go for the elevated highway instead of that.

Maybe some engineer could come up with a brilliant plan, but it seems like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube and create a bunch of service roads up & down 280 would be a logistical nightmare.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:41 pm to
There's not much room for access roads to either side of 280 and the areas behind the businesses are too built up to put anything without relocating a neighborhood or two. And I really don't see anyone OKing a toll road.

I'm ok with taking away more access on 280, but you will have to leave a few lights.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:52 pm to
Overpasses and on-ramps instead traffic lights at intersections. That's how you solve 280
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:55 pm to
Still going to need to find the money to build the overpasses.
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3850 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 2:39 pm to
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Traffic downtown is going to be a bitch in a bout five years, and I wont complain one bit. Is going to be awesome to see our city grow.



As long as this coincides with my condo value going up in that time period I'll be:

ETA: Also I think Top Golf would be a good idea. Birmingham is a huge golf city and I'd love for them to put it at 280/31 (sorry suburbanites ). I really just want the city to find a way to fill all the vacant buildings downtown. We need businesses to come to the area (obviously easier said than done). Businesses such as Fortune 500/1000 companies HQs or even SE HQs not Dave and Busters..

ETA2: For anyone arguing for a light rail system.. It'd be cool but the one they are suggesting runs a route that would directly benefit nobody on this board (Airport to CBD to Crossplex)
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 2:51 pm
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