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re: Autism rate jumped 30% between 2008 and 2010
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:05 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:05 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
That was my impersonation of a country Doc. 
They also get the nice Medicaid check and insurance check when they get repeat visits. And sometimes 5 digit checks from pharma's for pushing their products in prescriptions.
They also get the nice Medicaid check and insurance check when they get repeat visits. And sometimes 5 digit checks from pharma's for pushing their products in prescriptions.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:08 pm to Alahunter
I understand your point and agree that like anything else it has and will continually be exploited by different people but the majority of the disorders diagnosed are by people who genuinely care for their children and want the best. I highly doubt it's collusion.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:09 pm to Alahunter
I mean I understand what you are saying, but my feelings on the issue mirror DMagic's in the post above.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:14 pm to Alahunter
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I personally, think this is just a bunch of B.S. for a large portion of diagnosis'. People are just too damn lazy to raise their kids and want to blame something for their failures when their kids act out.
I know the DSM has questionable guidelines for diagnosing ADD and ADHD, but I think Autism is more serious and I doubt it's a diagnoses a physician would make lightly.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 3:10 pm to Crimson G
The DSM is constantly being revised to include more and more people as "mentally ill". It is a highly political document that is less and less based on science each year.
The less restrictive the criteria, the more people that are diagnosed and consequently the more people take medications and EVERYBODY wins!
Cash money to..........
Big pharma!
Researchers grants (via big pharma!!)
Large store drug chains!
Physicians!
Suppliers!
Manufacturers!
Shipping!
The government via taxes!
Everybody gets more cash when the criteria loosen up.
The only person that does not get rich in this scenario gets something valuable as well. They (the parents) get a medical reason their child is not "normal" and this lessens any guilt they have about parenting.
For the record, I am not talking about any specific child of any specific individual who may be struggling with ACTUAL mental illness. Mental illness is devastating on everyone.
But you cant just increase the prevalence of a disease every year until the end of time. At some point, enough is enough.
The less restrictive the criteria, the more people that are diagnosed and consequently the more people take medications and EVERYBODY wins!
Cash money to..........
Big pharma!
Researchers grants (via big pharma!!)
Large store drug chains!
Physicians!
Suppliers!
Manufacturers!
Shipping!
The government via taxes!
Everybody gets more cash when the criteria loosen up.
The only person that does not get rich in this scenario gets something valuable as well. They (the parents) get a medical reason their child is not "normal" and this lessens any guilt they have about parenting.
For the record, I am not talking about any specific child of any specific individual who may be struggling with ACTUAL mental illness. Mental illness is devastating on everyone.
But you cant just increase the prevalence of a disease every year until the end of time. At some point, enough is enough.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 3:26 pm to Alahunter
Induction. One day the connection will be made. Mark my words.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 3:53 pm to Alahunter
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And I've stated I know there are actual cases of autism and acknowledged some actually need treatments.
There is no clinical certainty in the definition of autism. It's a subjective diagnosis. To pretend that there isn't abuse in the diagnosis, especially when so many federal dollars are involved is just burying your head in the sand. And the lack of parenting in today's age, is also turning your head and ignoring the obvious. It's ridiculous to attribute growing up and adolescence as anything but that.
Fair enough. I just have a problem with the "throw the baby out with the bath water" arguments, which is what I sensed from you based on comments. Perhaps not to that extreme, but I just don't think a majority of autism cases are just lazy parents looking for a reason their kid is different, nor are there doctors diagnosing it so cavalierly as you imply. I think the bigger issue is we need to determine what is causing it and work from that direction. It's a relatively new condition and the diagnosis is not an exact science. Such is the case with a lot of mental conditions.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:16 pm to ehole
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This is the new ADHD
No, it's actually not even close.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:21 pm to The Spleen
quote:this is the liberals favorite phrase
I just have a problem with the "throw the baby out with the bath water" arguments, which is what I sensed from you based on comments.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:22 pm to heartbreakTiger
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go to in a argument
Is this coonass?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:25 pm to CatFan81
that and posting from my phone
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:35 pm to Alahunter
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I personally, think this is just a bunch of B.S. for a large portion of diagnosis'. People are just too damn lazy to raise their kids and want to blame something for their failures when their kids act out.
Diagnosing Autism is a totally different deal then "blaming something for their failures when their kids act out". We're talking full psychological evaluations, cognitive testing, etc. I've seen very few kids, at least on my end, get an Autistic diagnosis that didn't need it. And I think we've gotten better at diagnosing kids as legitimately Autistic versus writing it off as a kid who is just incredibly socially awkward. So the jump doesn't really surprise me.
Now if you want to talk about an EBD (Emotional and Behavioral Disorders) diagnosis or an OHI (Other Health Impaired, where ADD/ADHD typically falls), then we can probably have a solid conversation on parents pushing for a diagnosis for a kid because they want a disability check or a fall back so their kid doesn't flunk out of their grade.
ETA: And there's always been abuses in diagnosis. That's certainly not exclusive to Autism. I've seen parents "coach" their kids to not do well on a cognitive assessment just so they'd quality for ECE. I've seen teachers falsify an observation just to support a potential diagnosis to get a kid out of their class. It's shitty but it happens across the board.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 5:38 pm
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