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re: Autism rate jumped 30% between 2008 and 2010

Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:13 pm to
I work at a school with 1,800 kids. I asked the sped department chair how many AU kids we have and she said 24 that are on the spectrum. 10 that are served in small group classes and 14 that are in inclusion classes.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:17 pm to
24 out of 1800 is approx 1 in 75.

Looks like they got it pretty close
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:21 pm to
Thanks, Obama
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:27 pm to
Can't spell Obama without bama.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:36 pm to
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24 out of 1800 is approx 1 in 75.

Looks like they got it pretty close
Plus, there are several sizable schools in the Atlanta area that service AU kids only.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:45 pm to
The rib has worked with Autistic kids for several years, and I believe the 1 in 68.

Autism is NOT the ADHD. There isn't a pill you can give to an autistic kid and they suddenly calm down or become normal.

I believe the jump too. I'd say it is a combination of better and more aggressive diagnosis, as well as the tendency of couples to wait longer and longer to have kids. One of the easiest ways to increase your risk of having an autistic kid is wait until you are 35 and older to have kids, especially for the woman. The older the parents are, the higher the risk of having an autistic child.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:51 pm to
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And it's what parenting requires. Treating autism, is doing parenting stuff. Amazing.



No.

My wife is studying to be an educational diagnostician, basically "House" but in a school district. According to her, in the classroom it's pretty easy to see the difference between kids that are just brats and don't get told 'no' at home, and kids with actual AU. Both can 'act out' but 'brats' would act out one way, AU kids in completely different, much stranger ways.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:54 pm to
We all knew kids and adults who were a little weird or what we might call 'off' or a 'few bricks shy' when we growing up. These were the ones that didn't fit into the crazy or creepy label and weren't 'retarded' or developmentally disabled but they might be called 'particular' or 'peculiar' and by and large we just accepted them but we didn't have a name for them. There's a guy who does voter work around town who'd fit into this category he's harmless but something is a bit off about him and he'd probably slide into the autism spectrum if he'd ever been diagnosed.

I think a large portion of the increase is just recognizing people like this who in past years never would've been diagnosed.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:57 pm to
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My wife is studying to be an educational diagnostician, basically "House" but in a school district. According to her, in the classroom it's pretty easy to see the difference between kids that are just brats and don't get told 'no' at home, and kids with actual AU. Both can 'act out' but 'brats' would act out one way, AU kids in completely different, much stranger ways.



Whatever, dude. Alahunter is clearly an expert on the subject. Get out of here with real world experiences.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:00 pm to
at thinking you've got a monopoly on life experiences.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:03 pm to
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at thinking you've got a monopoly on life experiences.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:07 pm to
My line of work, I'm in peoples homes every day. I will guarantee, I've had more exposure and experience in seeing the home life of people, compared to the other "experts" in here. I've been literally, around thousands of families, day in and day out. I'm no medical expert, but I've got eyes, and apparently, one of the few with common sense in this thread, who has the ability to see an entire post and can comprehend an entire statement.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:19 pm to
You're really bad at this. To spell it out for you, I was sarcastically responding to cokebottle's post correcting your prior post. I wasn't talking about MY life experiences. He stated his wife works with autistic kids EVERY DAY, so I was referring to HER life experiences. I think that gives him a little more credibility than you or me on this issue.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:27 pm to
And you also posted your "real life" experience, with one individual earlier. Like many other subjects, it's clear we'll be at disagreement on the issue. Continue to believe, based on third person real life experiences, and ignore the Gov't funding that is pouring into the medical industry as more cases are "found". By the time the next generation rolls around, there will no longer be "normal" people remaining, alive. There'll be a medical condition, excusing every behavior under the sun and nothing will ever be anyone's fault or responsibility. Forward. Right?
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:28 pm to
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for a large portion of diagnosis


if you could just give a ballpark or a range of percentages which you feel define "a large portion" I think it would help as most have said there are likely some over diagnosed.

10%-15% missed diagnosed would be 1 in 75(1.33%)to 1 in 78 (1.28%) actual cases.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:33 pm to
I would guess more than half are. Gov't payouts make it pretty lucrative to find something wrong. And parents as a whole, are pretty lazy today. Bear in mind, that 30% jump, was in a 2 yr period, and it ended 2 yrs ago. Imagine how high it's gone up in the 4 yrs since. At one point, they had a 79% jump in diagnosed cases. It's the cool new "illness", and it pays really well.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:34 pm to
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By the time the next generation rolls around, there will no longer be "normal" people remaining, alive.
Clearly a rational conclusion, supported by much facts. Not to worry, we will all be dead from Global Warming by then
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:38 pm to
The spectrum now is an umbrella for multiple diagnoses not limited to just traditional autism but many emotional disorders.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:39 pm to
Autism has a large amount of leeway in it's diagnosis. There's not a one size fits all criteria that is used to diagnosis it. Because of that, it can be applied to the simplest of issues.

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Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a group of developmental disabilities that can cause significant social, communication and behavioral challenges.


Diagnosing ASD can be difficult since there is no medical test, like a blood test, to diagnose the disorders. Doctors look at the child’s behavior and development to make a diagnosis

It's purely subjective.

Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:40 pm to
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I would guess more than half are.


Highly unlikely IMO.

You seem to be failing to consider what others have pointed out, autism is a broad spectrum illness, not every case is severe and treatments vary and do not always require medication.

In addition the general public's awareness has significantly increased in recent years, couple that with advances in detection would account for an increase.

The poster above who talked about the age of people having children made a very good point too.
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