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re: Autism rate jumped 30% between 2008 and 2010
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:41 pm to MIZ_COU
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:41 pm to MIZ_COU
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The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is a law ensuring services to children with disabilities throughout the nation. IDEA governs how states and public agencies provide early intervention, special education and related services to more than 6.5 million eligible infants, toddlers, children and youth with disabilities.
Infants and toddlers with disabilities (birth-2) and their families receive early intervention services under IDEA Part C. Children and youth (ages 3-21) receive special education and related services under IDEA Part B.
Of course, there's no incentive to diagnosis children with it....
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:42 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
I think that the rate that women are induced synthetically has increased as well which I think is a contributing factor.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:46 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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You seem to be failing to consider what others have pointed out, autism is a broad spectrum illness, not every case is severe and treatments vary and do not always require medication.
I've stated several times, there are cases of it, for sure. But nothing to the degree they want to make it to be. Lets look at some of the things that are used to label someone autistic:
•not point at objects to show interest (for example, not point at an airplane flying over) - or...Not interested in something..
•avoid eye contact and want to be alone - Not everyone is sociable, and this can be due to how a child is raised.
•have trouble understanding other people’s feelings or talking about their own feelings - again, can be due to parenting.
•have trouble adapting when a routine changes - People are naturally creatures of habit. If you don't realize this, think about what you do everytime you get up or get ready for bed.
•be very interested in people, but not know how to talk, play, or relate to them - Shyness is autism now.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:47 pm to Alahunter
Just because there are incentives does not mean there is a massive autism con ring running.
All of the doctors would have to be in on the con.
Special education doesn't really sound like an incentive unless your child needs it.
All of the doctors would have to be in on the con.
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Of course, there's no incentive to diagnosis children with it..
Special education doesn't really sound like an incentive unless your child needs it.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:47 pm to DMagic
that wouldn't explain the difference in boys/girls disparity though.
1 in 42 boys
1 in 182 girls
1 in 42 boys
1 in 182 girls
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:47 pm to DMagic
Pitocin?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:50 pm to UMTigerRebel
Yes the drug is oxytocin.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:50 pm to Alahunter
It's not about being at a disagreement on the issue. I took exception with some of the outlandish comments you've made that indicate you don't have much experience dealing with autistic kids, so that's why I asked. Yes, I threw in one anecdotal example of the family I know with an autistic son. I never claimed that made me an expert on the issue. I used that to try and point out how an autistic tantrum is quite different than a tantrum from a non-autistic child, and the behavior of an autistic child is quite different that the behavior of a neglected child of lazy parents. I've also never denied there is an over diagnosis of the condition. I have simply tried to pull from you why you feel a majority of the diagnoses are wrong.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:50 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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All of the doctors would have to be in on the con.
Yeah. That could never happen.
In Hale County, Alabama, nearly 1 in 4 working-age adults is on disability
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:51 pm to DMagic
Yeah, I had to have it for my first, and it didn't work.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:52 pm to Alahunter
I didn't say it could never happen. Is that what you are claiming is happening. Because that is an outlandish claim without some sort of proof. Especially on a nationwide scale.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:53 pm to Alahunter
I'm just hypothesizing. It being that gender specific is perplexing.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:53 pm to The Spleen
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. I used that to try and point out how an autistic tantrum is quite different than a tantrum from a non-autistic child, and the behavior of an autistic child is quite different that the behavior of a neglected child of lazy parents
And I've stated I know there are actual cases of autism and acknowledged some actually need treatments.
There is no clinical certainty in the definition of autism. It's a subjective diagnosis. To pretend that there isn't abuse in the diagnosis, especially when so many federal dollars are involved is just burying your head in the sand. And the lack of parenting in today's age, is also turning your head and ignoring the obvious. It's ridiculous to attribute growing up and adolescence as anything but that.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:55 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Because that is an outlandish claim without some sort of proof.
Yet, it's acceptable to believe that 1 of every 68 children have a medical condition, when the medical community has the leisure of interpreting the illness with such wide criteria?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:56 pm to DMagic
As I stated earlier.. boys tend to be a little more rambunctious growing up. It'd seem logical, that parents that want the easy way out look for a quick fix and a pill. The ADD generation has kids now, ya know?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:59 pm to Alahunter
Like I said, there is probably some incorrect diagnosis going on, I will estimate 10-15%.
So no i do not think it is unreasonable to think that 1 out of every 75 children could be born with a medical condition ranging from extremely minor to extremely severe.
So no i do not think it is unreasonable to think that 1 out of every 75 children could be born with a medical condition ranging from extremely minor to extremely severe.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:01 pm to Alahunter
I think you're a little too predisposed to latching on to the lazy parent hypothesis. I get it though as you get older you romanticize the generation before you but the truth is they over medicated too.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:02 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
And still, it's subjective to the whims of an individual.
Sooo.. little johnny won't eat his broccoli and doesn't mind? Yep, he's got that autism.
Sooo.. little johnny won't eat his broccoli and doesn't mind? Yep, he's got that autism.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:04 pm to DMagic
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they over medicated too.
I don't disagree.
And I'm not romanticizing previous generations. Just seeing as time passes, that "medical conditions" are used to explain away responsibility and releases folks from consequences of their actions or nonactions.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 2:04 pm to Alahunter
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Sooo.. little johnny won't eat his broccoli and doesn't mind? Yep, he's got that autism.
Doctors are the ones who diagnose, not parents.
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