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re: Autism rate jumped 30% between 2008 and 2010
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:42 am to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:42 am to heartbreakTiger
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I think we are getting too broad when diagnosing behavior. However, maybe we have also gotten better at testing for certain things so we see a rise in numbers. I suspect its a combination of both.
My thoughts as well.
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:42 am to Alahunter
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Perhaps if they spent about 30 hours less a week in front of a TV and gaming console, and spent it with family outdoors, they'd be a bit more normal, and not socially awkward.
Not that it's any surprise, but you sound incredibly ignorant on the subject. This isn't a first for you. I have to conclude that you are trolling as nobody can be this dumb.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:46 am to The Spleen
1 in 68 kids. That's not a clinical, medical problem. It's a lot of damn parents that are too self absorbed to raise their kids. Your one, personal anectdotal situation, being used to explain that large a number has your opinions skewed.
I haven't said there aren't actual cases of autism. I said that probably, most are just lazy arse parents who don't take the time to raise their kids. They let tv do it or the internet. And then their anti-social behavior or whatnot is diagnosed as a medical issue, when it's nothing more than negligence on the parents' behalf.
You may disagree with that, and that's fine, but I'd wager most folks with "normal" families and kids look at folks like you and say, look at that retarded mofo. That's what's wrong with society today.
I haven't said there aren't actual cases of autism. I said that probably, most are just lazy arse parents who don't take the time to raise their kids. They let tv do it or the internet. And then their anti-social behavior or whatnot is diagnosed as a medical issue, when it's nothing more than negligence on the parents' behalf.
You may disagree with that, and that's fine, but I'd wager most folks with "normal" families and kids look at folks like you and say, look at that retarded mofo. That's what's wrong with society today.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:47 am to Alahunter
It is likely somewhat over diagnosed, although not nearly to the degree of ADHD.
However to make the assumption that most parents of an autistic child is somehow neglecting their children is idiotic at best.
However to make the assumption that most parents of an autistic child is somehow neglecting their children is idiotic at best.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:48 am to UMTigerRebel
It is a pretty easy road to go down over diagnosing problems. One the phrama industry is huge in America. We have commercials begging people to go to a dr and ask about a pill for all kinds of stuff. Then you have dr.'s that will get kick backs. Next, you have parents that would rather have an excuse for their children's behavior than actually take time to fix it. The easy answer is broaden the definitions of illness and stick kids on pills. Sure some kids do have a mild form of autism that needs to be treated but I bet we are overly inflating the numbers and that is sad for someone that truly needs help.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:49 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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However to make the assumption that most parents of an autistic child is somehow neglecting their children is idiotic at best.
No more so, than to think 1 in 68 kids are mentally deficient. Hell, that's more insulting and idiotic.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:49 am to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:i agree, I don't think it is ADHD/ADD type bad yet but Hunter has a point.
It is likely somewhat over diagnosed, although not nearly to the degree of ADHD.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:50 am to heartbreakTiger
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One the phrama industry is huge in America. We have commercials begging people to go to a dr and ask about a pill for all kinds of stuff. Then you have dr.'s that will get kick backs. Next, you have parents that would rather have an excuse for their children's behavior than actually take time to fix it. The easy answer is broaden the definitions of illness and stick kids on pills
hit the nail on the head.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:51 am to heartbreakTiger
It's all Dustin Hoffman's fault.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:51 am to Alahunter
Autism is a lot more than just "being socially awkward". It develops between birth and 3 years old.. I don't see too many 2 and 3 year olds playing video games like you just stated being a factor in development of autism. Are there people that are misdiagnosed? Yes..but is it meant to be taken seriously and paid attention to more than you're leading on? Absolutely.
It scares me to see people like you that believe you can cure autism with a belt.
It scares me to see people like you that believe you can cure autism with a belt.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:52 am to Alahunter
what if our genetically altered food is causing a spike in these cases?
I would be kind of interested to see how other countries compare to us in rates of diagnosing for things like adhd/add and autism. Then compare their big phrama industry to ours and diet to ours.
I would be kind of interested to see how other countries compare to us in rates of diagnosing for things like adhd/add and autism. Then compare their big phrama industry to ours and diet to ours.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:52 am to heartbreakTiger
quote:Maybe. Then you have some parents that wish their child would speak or show any kind of joy and affection. It's a huge problem. When you can look an child with autism in the eyes, you can see that there is a big disconnect in their brain.
Next, you have parents that would rather have an excuse for their children's behavior than actually take time to fix it
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:52 am to UMTigerRebel
Wait until they become an entitlement protected class and fall under disability.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:52 am to CheeseburgerEddie
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However to make the assumption that most parents of an autistic child is somehow neglecting their children is idiotic at best.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:53 am to NorthReb
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Then you have some parents that wish their child would speak or show any kind of joy and affection. It's a huge problem. When you can look an child with autism in the eyes, you can see that there is a big disconnect in their brain.
And those, I am not speaking about. They wouldn't come close to numbering 1 in 68.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:54 am to Alahunter
Is it over diagnosed? Probably so. Has the definition of it been broadened, thus capturing more into the diagnosis? Probably so. To castigate most of the diagnoses as just lazy parents that should just beat their kids is ignorant. The majority of diagnoses occur at a young age(read: infancy to toddler), long before parents stick their kids in front of a TV or gaming console.
What I disagree with you on is you castigating most(your word) of the kids with autism as just rowdy kids that need a beating from their lazy parents. That shows me one, you haven't spent meaningful time around a kid with autism, and two, you didn't realize most diagnoses occur at a very young age.
What I disagree with you on is you castigating most(your word) of the kids with autism as just rowdy kids that need a beating from their lazy parents. That shows me one, you haven't spent meaningful time around a kid with autism, and two, you didn't realize most diagnoses occur at a very young age.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:54 am to Alahunter
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No more so, than to think 1 in 68 kids are mentally deficient
I think I will take the word of medical professionals over yours, unless you happen to work in this field.
Like I said probably some over diagnosis, however the leaps you are making are too far. All of those 1 in 68 are very likely not treated with pills.
quote from Mayo Clinic
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The goal of treatment is to maximize your child's ability to function by reducing autism symptoms and supporting development and learning. Your doctor can help identify resources in your area.
Treatment options may include:
Behavior and communication therapies. Many programs address the range of social, language and behavioral difficulties associated with autism. Some programs focus on reducing problem behaviors and teaching new skills. Others focus on teaching children how to act in social situations or how to communicate better with other people. Though children don't always outgrow autism, they may learn to function well.
Educational therapies. Children with autism often respond well to highly structured education programs. Successful programs often include a team of specialists and a variety of activities to improve social skills, communication and behavior. Preschool children who receive intensive, individualized behavioral interventions often show good progress.
Family therapies. Parents and family members can learn how to play and interact with their children in ways that promote social interaction skills, manage problem behaviors, and teach daily living skills and communication.
Medications. No medication can improve the core signs of autism, but certain medications can help control symptoms. For example, antidepressants may be prescribed for anxiety, and antipsychotic drugs are sometimes used to treat severe behavioral problems. Other medications may be prescribed if your child is hyperactive.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:54 am to Alahunter
quote:Got ya..well I'm going to bow out as it is a far too sensitive subject for myself.
And those, I am not speaking about. They wouldn't come close to numbering 1 in 68.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:55 am to Alahunter
quote:You are talking about those kids because they factor into that number that you're referring to. Now if you found specific evidence that supports your claim other than "there's no way in hell that's possible" then maybe I'd be convinced and change my view
And those, I am not speaking about. They wouldn't come close to numbering 1 in 68.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:56 am to Rig
Riglet I don't think hunter is saying kids that actually have autism should be cured with a belt. I think he is saying some of this is over diagnosing and the ones that aren't really autistic would be cured with a belt.
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