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re: Academy Sports Gun Sales Story (wtf moment)

Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:42 pm to
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If criminals didn't have guns they would use a bow & arrow, crossbow, knife, chainsaw,


True, but more conventional weapons give the victim a much larger chance at surviving or fighting back successfully.

It's easy to pull a trigger from a distance. It's hard to go hand to hand with someone...many criminals wouldn't attempt that because they like "easy" targets.

It doesn't matter, because such a hypothetical could never be accomplished, and you'd never convince Governments to destroy all weapons and explosives. In this country, we have guns to keep the Gov't in check (and deter foreign invasion, since any invading country would be fighting not only military, but all citizens) and I would never even think about giving mine up until all Govt's of the world gave up theirs.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28861 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:45 pm to
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He was probably just trying to double fist beers to impress his kid. Kid decided to live with his mom after this.



if so, i made the right decision.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112606 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:45 pm to
My dad taught me to funnel at Buffalo Wild Wings at age 11.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:49 pm to
You are tearing apart traditional american values.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:50 pm to
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What has increased are the mass shootings like Columbine, Newtown, Aurora, etc


False, as shown by Obama's CDC study, which somehow is ignored by MSM for some reason.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28861 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:54 pm to
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You are tearing apart traditional american values.



it was when my religious dogmatism overrode common sense and before my libertarianism kicked in. also, i had just taken my TABC (texas alcohol something or other) test, and that was a specific question asked on the test.

that being said, given the same situation today i probably still wouldn't do it. if he had been even like 15 i'd have been cool with it. my kid's almost 8 and i couldn't imagine giving him booze in two years.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112606 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 2:19 pm to
My 11 year old is going to start drinking straight/neat or he'll get a beating. Tired of buying his arse Coke and Sprite to mix.
Posted by Tds & Beer
TOT DAT MOFAN~DRIP DRIP~Bunty Pls
Member since Sep 2009
23860 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 4:04 pm to
Who still believes Obama studies?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90560 posts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:02 pm to
I have a framed picture on my wall of myself when I was 8 months old wearing a Caterpillar, my dad holding me letting me sip a Budweiser
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I don't know how you could possibly argue against that. It's obviously not possible. But the elimination of guns completely would make the world safer.
Not necessarily.

Aside from the farce that guns cause crime or violence, a firearm is a force equalizer.

Let's pretend that all guns are magically removed from the world and that we're left with edged and blunt weapons (or bare hands/feet) for those who want to do harm.

Who has the advantage now? Anyone who is bigger, stronger, and faster. A 6'5", 280 lb man can do whatever he wants to a 5'1", 115 lb woman, because if he would be able to overpower her with ease. Same goes for a young person against an old person or a healthy person versus a disabled person. It's easy for a strong person to find a target: anyone who is smaller and weaker than themselves.

Firearms are an equalizer. Suddenly a small woman or an elderly man can inflict the same (or more) amount of damage to an attacker, regardless of their strength, speed, or size. They can more effectively defend themselves. They also make it more difficult for an attacker to select a victim, since they don't know who might be carrying a firearm.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 2:37 pm to
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The NRA can be extreme, but considering we have powerful politicians like Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein and Dennis Kucinich who have stated they want to ban ALL guns, I'm glad the NRA is there to counteract the insanity.


Quoted for truth.

Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Crime has actually been going down over the past 15-20 years, even gun crime. I'll try to find the article I read a few months ago, but according to it, gun crime peaked in the late 80's at the height of the crack cocaine craze. It has been steadily going down since then. What has increased are the mass shootings like Columbine, Newtown, Aurora, etc.



Almost completely true, but mass shootings/murders have been around for a long, long time too. The worst school massacre in the US happened in 1927 and the story reads like every one that happens today.

What's really changed is that the 24/7/365 news cycle and instant access anywhere anytime to information gives the impression that bad things happen more often. As an aside, I'm also convinced that same information overload triggers more nutcases to act.

Overall murder has definitely fallen at a tremendous rate, even though we've got more guns in circulation than ever.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:51 am to
let me just put this here:

quote:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


And please, re-read the bold part.

If it's easy for some guy to get one, then it's easy for you or me to get one.

If you don't like guns, that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to get one.

If you're afraid to protect yourself or your family and want to rely on Johnny Law, then that's your prerogative.

But what scares me more than some random dude at the store buying a shotgun, is people who, because they don't like something, would use force to prevent me from doing something I like, that doesn't hurt them. The proper term for such people is statists.

Like, hmm.... Banning or restricting firearms in some way.

Banning doesn't make anybody safer, except the criminals, who being criminals, don't give a shite if something is illegal.

The logic statists try to use indicates severe cognitive dissonance.

I guess, being a Mississippi State fan and presumably a southerner, that you might know that buying and selling used firearms, especially long guns, is perfectly legal with no background check?

An armed society is a polite society.

It's the unarmed sheep who put us all at risk because criminals believe many people are un-armed.

If a criminal thought everyone was armed and could potentially kill him if he acted out, then he would be less likely to so.

If he believes that no one will resist then what do you think he will do?

Cognitive dissonance is strong in the statist folks.

I say there should be no restrictions on sales and means of carrying personal protection.

I view any attempt to forbid me to defend my life and those of my loved ones as an assault.

I choose to live around like-minded people. Interestingly, I regularly hear the sound of freedom outside. And even more interesting is the lack of home invasions and car-jackings in these parts.

Wonder if that has something to do with said sounds, the fact that local ne'erdowells know that almost every home contains firearms, that locals know how and are ready to use those firearms in defense of life and liberty, and that the local constabulary supports self-sufficiency in terms of home defense and crime prevention?

Hmmm...

The best (nee only) defense to a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy (or several) with a gun or guns.

Posted by pleasetakemebackhome
Member since Jan 2014
32 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 11:07 am to
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