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re: Academy Sports Gun Sales Story (wtf moment)
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:06 pm to Agforlife
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:06 pm to Agforlife
And Houston can't hold a candle to Birmingham I know 3 guys who still sell illegal guns of any caliber and have been wanted at one time or another by DEA
Going there was stupid that is why they weren't likely too bad
Going there was stupid that is why they weren't likely too bad
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:07 pm to stoms
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1rst guy hands the 2nd guy enough for the $600 gun while the 2nd guy fills out the paper work.
Shouldn't have been sold. That's a straw purchase. I personally, would have gotten the manager and contacted appropriate authorities.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:08 pm to The Spleen
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She's identified the main source of her stress and is working on rectifying
Oh, so my idea worked?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:08 pm to The Spleen
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Because the NRA as effectively brainwashed enough Americans into believing it is their birthright to own a gun, and any challenge to that is a form of tyranny.
If you're not restricted from purchasing one because of a criminal record or age limit, you DO have a birthright to own a gun.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:14 pm to BuccWildBammer
Hell I could buy em here on the street but the place is to small and my PO would be at my door before you can say hello 
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:15 pm to 3nOut
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Good lord you're shady. We should get a beer.
No used to be shady and still know though don't associate with anymore a lot of shady people.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:23 pm to stoms
It really doesn't even matter because the same felon could buy a gun right out of tradewinds magazine with no background check.
A criminal will get ahold of a gun no matter what. Jackson has gotten bad..if he was looking at a shotgun I would venture that he wasn't buying it to commit murder. Most thugs would buy a handgun because it is easily concealed.
I'd bet he was a felon, but probably was drug related, not violence related and he just wanted a gun for his house defense.
A criminal will get ahold of a gun no matter what. Jackson has gotten bad..if he was looking at a shotgun I would venture that he wasn't buying it to commit murder. Most thugs would buy a handgun because it is easily concealed.
I'd bet he was a felon, but probably was drug related, not violence related and he just wanted a gun for his house defense.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:25 pm to 3nOut
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The main problem with gun control is that the only people who are going to abide by the rules are people like you and me who would do so anyways. People that are going to break the law with guns are going to keep doing it no matter what legislation we put forth.
Agree with that. Despite all the hoopla around it, gun crime has actually been trending down over the past 15-20 years. I still think we have a big problem with guns in our culture, but I have no idea how to fix it. I don't think more guns, which seems to be the NRA's solution, is the right answer though. I do think anyone that purchases a gun should be required to take a gun safety course.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:29 pm to The Spleen
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The last bill that got voted down had a universal background check
We already have background checks in place. Any dealer must perform these. The new law was way more than that..if i remember right it contained clauses that didn't allow passing of weapons to family members and such, giving them as gifts, and making it illegal to be in possession of a gun not registered to yourself for more than 24 hours.
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so-called gun show loophole
It doesn't exist. There is no loophole. Any dealer at a gunshow must perform a background check. The perceived "loophole" is just selling of guns between private individuals. No different than if I put an ad in the classifieds to sell my shotgun..they just go to a gun show because it's easier to locate a buyer.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:31 pm to Agforlife
That's the difference here could buy and use one on the other side of town and no one would know, it's the reason why Bham's crime rate is ridiculously high
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:33 pm to The Spleen
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I still think we have a big problem with guns in our culture, but I have no idea how to fix it.
It's not the guns in our culture. It's the culture that uses them to further their criminal behavior. Until people are held more accountable, education and poverty is addressed and people have an honest dialogue about the problems in the inner cities, nothing will change.
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I don't think more guns, which seems to be the NRA's solution, is the right answer though
The NRA is simply doing what they can to protect a Constitutional Right. If those opposed to them spent more time and money addressing the actual problems, instead of a war on Rights, progress could be made and the NRA and it's members could focus more of their efforts on what they would rather focus it on. Safety and sportsmanship. Unfortunately, they have to spend a large amount of time, energy and funds, to protect everyone's rights.
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I do think anyone that purchases a gun should be required to take a gun safety course.
I think it should be taught in middle school.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:33 pm to deltaland
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It doesn't exist. There is no loophole. Any dealer at a gunshow must perform a background check. The perceived "loophole" is just selling of guns between private individuals. No different than if I put an ad in the classifieds to sell my shotgun..they just go to a gun show because it's easier to locate a buyer.
Yeah, that's why I called it the so-called gun show loophole. I've only been to one gun show with my uncle and he bought a gun there without a background check, but I've heard they're required to. So I don't know. Maybe he had bought a gun from that dealer before or something. But I know I saw him give the guy a wad of $100 bills and walk out with a gun without filling out any paperwork.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:33 pm to BuccWildBammer
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I know 3 guys who still sell illegal guns
What is an 'illegal' gun?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:33 pm to deltaland
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We already have background checks in place
Correct.
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The new law was way more than that..if i remember right it contained clauses that didn't allow passing of weapons to family members and such, giving them as gifts, and making it illegal to be in possession of a gun not registered to yourself for more than 24 hours.
Correct.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:34 pm to Mr.Sinister
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it's just profiling
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And profiling is WRONG!
Racial profiling for the sake of racial profiling is wrong but profiling works.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:35 pm to The Spleen
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so-called gun show loophole
No such thing. Any dealer at a gun show by law, has to do a background check.
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he bought a gun there without a background check
Perhaps from an individual. Which is no different than purchasing one from an ad in the local paper.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:35 pm to The Spleen
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I do think anyone that purchases a gun should be required to take a gun safety course.
I actually would be ok with requiring a person to take a gun safety course, much like hunter's safety courses, before being allowed to legally own a gun.
Offer for free, takes say 4 hours, where you take someone who is 16 yrs old or older, teach them basic safety for 2 hours, give them a written exam for 1 hour, then a live firing range practice. As long as they pass the exam with 70%, they're good to go. You can take the class again if you fail.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:39 pm to deltaland
Make it a requirement in all schools. 13-15 age range should have to have it. Partner with the NRA and local ranges, for extra curricular credit at ranges after school, with parent supervision for hands on experience if families want their kids to learn more.
It would be easy to have weapons without firing pins and nonshooting firearms in classes to teach kids how to handle, and be safe around them. And I guarantee between the NRA, local Sheriff's and local gun dealers, they'd be more than supportive to defray any costs associated with this.
It would be easy to have weapons without firing pins and nonshooting firearms in classes to teach kids how to handle, and be safe around them. And I guarantee between the NRA, local Sheriff's and local gun dealers, they'd be more than supportive to defray any costs associated with this.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:40 pm to Alahunter
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It's not the guns in our culture. It's the culture that uses them to further their criminal behavior. Until people are held more accountable, education and poverty is addressed and people have an honest dialogue about the problems in the inner cities, nothing will change.
This. Guns have existed here for a long time..we didn't have the problems we have now with criminal behavior in the 50s.
Crime is going up, so naturally gun ownership is increasing in response..people are getting nervous and feel the need to protect themselves.
I can think of many places 15 years ago that were perfectly safe to go to, now I wouldn't drive through there without a pistol in my truck.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:43 pm to Alahunter
hunter bottom line is there is HELLA money in selling guns illegally like I said I know 3 different guys who make 6 figures and have served years after the DEA got a hold of them and still doing it, there is money in it and that will drive even people that don't want to be associated with the end result people using guns have, just want the money
Hell I know a couple cops who will sell you an unregistered 9 why? There's money
Hell I know a couple cops who will sell you an unregistered 9 why? There's money
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