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re: 5 babies infected with measles at a Chicago daycare

Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:54 pm to
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It needs to.be required to put kids in school. Can't be endangering other kids. If you don't want to vaccinate, home school them.

And especially daycares, where you have infants unable to receive certain vaccinations due to age.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:57 pm to
Private schools can always do what they want on the vaccine question. So problem solved without segregation.

Also, people who don't vaccinate their children are willfully ignorant buffoons who risk the health and well being of others. They should be sued if their kid gets others who can't be vaccinated (at least for shite like Measles, Mumps, and the like).
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:58 pm to
Non-vaccies will be welcome at my international educational empire - once I get it up and running.

But I don't like interacting with kids I'm not tutoring so i don't care about the vaccinations
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:29 pm to
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Thank you illegal aliens.


FIFY
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35610 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:31 pm to
Is that even confirmed at this point?

It's irrelevant either way. It doesn't spread like this without morons not vaccinating their kids.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 10:34 pm to
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It doesn't spread like this without illegal aliens not vaccinating their kids.


FIFY
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41101 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:01 pm to
Its funny what some people are comfortable forcing other people to do (through gov't proxy). Personally, I'm very reluctant to tell anyone else what to do with their children. They don't wanna vaccinate them? Fine. frick em.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:04 pm to
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FIFY


It's not illegal aliens. It's these wilfully ignorant soccer mom types who think that some study who showed correlation between vaccines and autism diagnosis means that the vaccines caused the autism.

Blame Jenny McCarthy, not Jose.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:05 pm to
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Personally, I'm very reluctant to tell anyone else what to do with their children.


I'm not when it directly endangers other children, especially those that depend upon herd immunity to not contract and die from diseases like measles that had been eradicated.

As I said though, if they don't want to. Fine. But then you should forfeit your "right" to a public education because you don't give two fricks about the safety of anyone else's children.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 11:06 pm to
Pretty much my thoughts - hard to figure out where the line is drawn in regards to what people should have to do with their children, but I don't think vaccinations cross it.

- particularly when the argument made isn't about the health of the unvaccinated child
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:45 am to
Infants under 12 months of age and those with autoimmune disorders cannot be vaccinated for things like measles. Antivaxers are putting those children at risk with their bullshite.

Your rights end where my begin should apply here. Unvaccinated children who can be vaccinated should not be able to put those who can't be vaccinated at risk.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:59 am to
Not vaccinating is like giving kids a loaded gun to play with. Those who oppose it are haters of the 2nd amendment, while kids accidentally shoot kids without guns and parents wonder why.



Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:01 am to
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Your rights end where my begin should apply here. Unvaccinated children who can be vaccinated should not be able to put those who can't be vaccinated at risk.

Exactly. It's been easy for the anti-vaccine people to preach about their freedoms while being protected by herd immunity, but I doubt they would have been preaching the same thing back in the days of the polio epidemic. And I doubt they think about how many people were killed by measles before a vaccine was invented.

And I totally get people not wanting to get the flu vaccine. I'm fine with that, because it's a crap shoot on whether it protects against the current strain or not, but diseases like measles and polio are a different beast.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:13 am to
They're gonna love it when measles is no longer eradicated and because they chose not to vaccinate their kids they'll have to sit at home with them. We've already been briefed that children with waivers or who are not complaint will not be allowed to come to school if our district has an outbreak.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:16 am to
I thought I was on the Poli Board reading this thread and was shocked nobody had yet blamed this on illegal immigrants, then I saw I'm on the OT Board.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:25 am to
It bothers me that this was thought to be eradicated in 2000, but then these asshats have to mess it up.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:44 am to
Spleen, look up. There's one poster who thinks it's illegal aliens.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:52 am to
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5 babies infected


quote:

Thank you anti-vaccine people.


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but babies under the age of 1 are too young to have been vaccinated.


You win the troll award for the day
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:54 am to
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You win the troll award for the day



You do realize a <1 year old can't just come down with the measles, right? They'd have to be exposed to someone with it, most likely another kid in the daycare above the age of 1 that did not get vaccinated.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 9:54 am to
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Exactly. It's been easy for the anti-vaccine people to preach about their freedoms while being protected by herd immunity, but I doubt they would have been preaching the same thing back in the days of the polio epidemic. And I doubt they think about how many people were killed by measles before a vaccine was invented.



Even in the days of the polio epidemic, vaccinations were not mandatory.

Look, I am all for local school districts, pediatricians, day care centers, etc. all requiring vaccinations for attendees. But the principle of this is the federal government should not be telling parents how to raise their kids, including things like vaccinations.

I know some on here believe 'it takes a village' and whatnot, and that's fine. But I'm a parent, and I'll be damned if you get to tell me how to raise my kid. You didn't sit up all night with a screaming child, you don't get to tell me I'm not patient enough. etc etc.

If the government can say what my kid gets as far as vaccinations, then the government gets to say what I can feed my child. And as we can all see from a certain school lunch program, that's asking for stupid.
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