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Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:33 am to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 8:33 am to
@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: Expectation is that #STLCards’ Wainwright is done for season with Achilles injury. Has not yet undergone MRI.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 9:12 am to
More yoga, less weights.

fricken, eh.

frick.



Posted by Stlweir
St Louis
Member since Nov 2013
239 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 10:08 am to
When Wainright described the pop you just new it was his Achilles. Super bummer.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/26/15 at 10:13 am to
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When Wainright described the pop you just new it was his Achilles. Super bummer.



He never said it was a pop. I think he said for sure there wasn't. Either way, I haven't seen anything about him describing a pop.

He said it felt like something landed on it.

I'm going to hold out hope until the MRI comes in -- I've thought I destroyed my achilles and it ended up being more like a sprain of it. You can sprain it, tear it, rupture it. I'm hoping it's a sprain. Reason to believe it is by the way he was able to somewhat walk off.

Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 5:23 pm to
Well the shits confirmed.

I'm sure you all know.

Just talking to myself.

Was hoping for the best.

I'll go on record and say I don't want to give up anything worth keeping for Hamels.

I'd prefer to pay less for a Samarja (however you spell his name).
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 5:38 pm to
I say let it ride.

Let's see what these guys are made of, theres still a lot of "potential" in this staff. Making a panic move right now isn't the smart play, if Mo believes in the system, then he will stick with it until it proves barren.

Either way, experience is always a trump card, and these guys will get plenty of it this year, even if it doesn't pan out and they slip a bit this year. It will help moving forward, especially if it can get it done without the pressure of precise play needed for a team in a pennant race.

The only problem if this tanks is that the window is closed a little more on Holliday, Waino, Yadi, etc.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 5:52 pm to
I agree.

Don't want a move now.

Let's see how it goes.

I hope one of Marco or Garcia can be healthy, giving us another legitimate pitcher.

And hopefully a Cooney or Lyon's can hold it down while those guys get healthy.

quote:


The only problem if this tanks is that the window is closed a little more on Holliday, Waino, Yadi, etc.



It is a shame.

Feel bad that Waino misses another year pitching to Yadi.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:30 pm to
Garcia threw 44 simulated pitches and is set for a side session today or tomorrow I think.

Marco is on a 7 day DL (I guess minors have different lengths) and I think they said may be back mid-May.
Posted by Stlweir
St Louis
Member since Nov 2013
239 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:19 am to
Interested to see what Cooney can do. 6'3" lefty who I believe was the 3rd round pick the same season the Cards picked Wacha in the first round. Won 14 games last year in AAA Memphis last year. Not over powering but solid.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Interested to see what Cooney can do. 6'3" lefty who I believe was the 3rd round pick the same season the Cards picked Wacha in the first round. Won 14 games last year in AAA Memphis last year. Not over powering but solid.



I think we kind of know what we got in Cooney.

A solid guy, nothing special.

I don't see a future for him in the rotation, but think he can do well in the majors.

Would like to keep this model going -- Top 2-3 guys in the rotation are solidified starters, bottom 1 or 2 are extra special young talents.

This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17270 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:39 pm to
Garcia will make 4-5 starts then go right back on the DL again.Barring a trade, Gonzales will take most of those starts when Cooney gets knocked around.I don't see this team good enough to win it all without a rotation upgrade.

Interesting that Wainwright said he doesn't want DH in NL.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:42 pm to
Good for speedy Pete tonight.

Have hated him at times, but have always had some level of sympathy for him.

Hasn't been healthy since his '11 season when he led the AL in triples.

Hasn't gotten consistent playing time here. Wasn't healthy last year.

Love seeing Carp at 2.

Love seeing Pete at 1 when he does what he did tonight.

CMart amazes again.

Good stuff.


Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17270 posts
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:48 pm to
Martinez has grown a lot this year.I'm happy for him getting a chance to stay in the rotation.Bourjos is nothing more than a spare part who strikes out too much.Carpenter is probably the best all around player on the team right now.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 12:19 am to
Bourjos is capable, but he won't get a fair shake here, and that's not a knock on MM.

JJ deserves to play over him at this point. He's got some veteran savvy, and he's learned to use what he's gleaned over the years to turn into a decent ballplayer.

Martinez is showing what a difference a year of experience makes. Last year he doesn't get through that 5th inning. This year he's realizing that shite happens, and as long as he doesn't let it get sideways, he'll be ok.

I like what I'm seeing from him most of all. I think he has the biggest upside of any player not named Wacha.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:38 am to
Bourjos showed what he can do last night. At the plate, in the field and on the bases. 2 of the 3 Jay just isn't capable of doing.

He's never gotten consistent playing time here, and still won't, but nice to see him have a great game.
Posted by Stlweir
St Louis
Member since Nov 2013
239 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 9:32 am to
He got a shot last year but wasn't healthy. The question is can he hit?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:37 am to
He never got a real shot. He got off to a slow start in the first couple of weeks and he was buried on the bench afterwards. Some guys can't take to the bench role well and hit. It appears he is one of them...and as you say, he was hurt.

Jay isn't capable of producing a season like Bourjos did in 2011. No doubt in my mind a healthy PB adds more value over JJ over the course of a full season. Doesn't matter though, JJ is Matheny's guy.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 3:48 pm to
15-6 now. Best record in baseball.

Just wow. Let's keep this pain train rolling.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 7:25 pm to
quote:


Jay isn't capable of producing a season like Bourjos did in 2011. No doubt in my mind a healthy PB adds more value over JJ over the course of a full season. Doesn't matter though, JJ is Matheny's guy.



I'm not anti Jay. I like the guy. He's been basically a .300 hitter for 5 years in a row, and I actually like his defense.

But yeah, PB has a dynamic that Jay can't reproduce. If PB was put out there 30 days in a row I really believe he'd change the entire look of our offense in a positive way.
Posted by seaniec04
St Louis, MO
Member since Jan 2014
726 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:20 pm to
JJ has been awesome in center this year and love him in the leadoff. I'm also a huge Jon Jay Sauget homer. Always have been. He's a gamer.
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