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re: E. Holyfield Arrested
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:35 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:35 am to Crowknowsbest
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For a football player at UGA, the little headache also comes with multiple articles in every sports section in GA and the southeast. For Elijah Holyfield, that also comes with a front page article on ESPN.com because of how famous his dad is. All of those stories will show up at or near the top of every "Elijah Holyfield" Google search for the rest of his life. That's one of the first things prospective employers will know about him.
I understand, and it's a shame. he gets it worse because of who his dad is. Did he not understand this? his father should have drilled that into his head, and then our coaches should have reinforced that with him.
It's unfortunate, but he was already under a microscope. Not a comfortable place to be.
Add to that, normally when you have a father with the fame his has, there is at least a boatload of money waiting on him if it hinders his job search.
However, Evander doesn't have a whole lot of money. Child support, alimony and bad business decisions have soaked him dry. I looked his net worth up, and he is worth about $500,000.00. Hardly a fortune. By all acounts, Evender is a great guy. I hope he can get his act together.
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:35 am to Crowknowsbest
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For a regular student, getting hauled to jail for a couple hours and paying a fine isn't the worst thing. I
Disagree if it goes on a permanent record.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:36 am to Peter Buck
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39% of people who get arrested for selling weed get raped in prison by murderers. There is a correlation....
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:37 am to Hobnail
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comparing weed smoking to raping someone... oh what a time to be alive.
From my post:
(NO! I am not comparing weed to rape. I am comparing how we blame people for our own faults sometimes)
And you talked about my reading comprehension.
Please tell me you didn't graduate from UGA.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:39 am to djsdawg
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Disagree if it goes on a permanent record.
True, but at least it's not super public. You also have a good chance at getting a first offense dropped with a pre-trial diversion.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:40 am to DawgsLife
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most in here are for the legalization of it because it is victimless
It's victimless when you are chilling in your room, eating a sandwich, and watching tv before bed.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:40 am to Crowknowsbest
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True, but at least it's not super public. You also have a good chance at getting a first offense dropped with a pre-trial diversion.
Riley Ridley, for instance.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:41 am to djsdawg
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most in here are for the legalization of it because it is victimless
It's victimless when you are chilling in your room, eating a sandwich, and watching tv before bed.
Because that is all anyone ever does, right?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:41 am to DawgsLife
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Riley Ridley, for instance.
Damage is already done. It's on his Google record.
ETA: If he was a regular student, he would be in decent shape.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:45 am to Crowknowsbest
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Damage is already done. It's on his Google record.
True. Forgot about Google. The world we live in is amazing. You have to remember, when I was in college.....never mind.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:04 am to DawgsLife
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that is all anyone ever does, right?
Well, some enjoy concerts or hiking or fishing or playing basketball, but not on a Sunday night before they are going to bed.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:31 am to djsdawg
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Well, some enjoy concerts or hiking or fishing or playing basketball, but not on a Sunday night before they are going to bed.
Ok. Because none drive. Check out my link showing where traffic fatalities have increased 48% since Marijuana has been legalized in Colorado.
Victimless.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:37 am to DawgsLife
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Ok. Because none drive. Check out my link showing where traffic fatalities have increased 48% since Marijuana has been legalized in Colorado.
My guess is that has more to do with mixing alcohol and weed, and then driving. Typically people who are just high are relatively sedentary. They also tend to drive pretty slowly and defensively when they do. I'm not condoning driving while high, but it isn't the kind of thing where I'd expect a huge increase in collisions.
Alcohol and weed can frick you up pretty bad though. Slow reaction time + aggressive + reckless + lackadaisical + sleepy = really bad driving.
I haven't looked at the stats though.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:03 pm to Crowknowsbest
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My guess is that has more to do with mixing alcohol and weed, and then driving.
Quite possibly the mixing of the two. And, as i pointed out earlier, the ones tested positive for both more often than not. (My more often than not comment indicates 50% or more, but it should be noted the difference was quite a bit, I believe)
I actually saw the article several days ago, and don't want to go back through it, but I believe you are correct, that it was a mixture and the mixture in those cases were by a large majority.
What might be interesting to find out, if it is a very common occurrence for people to drink while they are smoking. If so, would that indicate that the reason is because the effect of both together is more significant?
ETA
Sorry for my slow responses. I am doing other things and coming back to this thread from time to time.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:09 pm to DawgsLife
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Ok. Because none drive. Check out my link showing where traffic fatalities have increased 48% since Marijuana has been legalized in Colorado.
Victimless.
If Holyfield was eating strong edibles and then driving, you would have a point, but he was chilling and smoking in the privacy of his apartment on a SUNDAY night before going to bed. VERY big difference between smoking and edibles when it comes to effects.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:16 pm to djsdawg
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If Holyfield was eating strong edibles and then driving, you would have a point, but he was chilling and smoking in the privacy of his apartment on a SUNDAY night before going to bed. VERY big difference between smoking and edibles when it comes to effects.
This was aimed at your characterizing smoking marijuana
as a victimless crime. I guess it is safe to say it is victimless....until there is a victim. The statistics show, however, that it is not unusual for people to smoke and drive. Are you prepared to say that a 48% increase in driving fatalities is acceptable?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:20 pm to DawgsLife
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Are you prepared to say that a 48% increase in driving fatalities is acceptable?
I'm not prepared to concede that statistic is true.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:26 pm to deeprig9
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I'm not prepared to concede that statistic is true.
Did you look at the link? It wasn't just from this source. There are multiples links saying the same thing. (I would concede that in all probability, they go back to the same report, although I don't know)
I would also say, that i was shocked when I saw it, and had my doubts, too. However, it appears as if it is hard statistics and nothing that is interpreted.
Also, remember, that nobody can definitively say that it was the marijuana that caused all of those traffic fatalities, but it seems reasonable to draw a line that many, if not most were since it was a jump.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:33 pm to DawgsLife
It should also be noted that I saw articles saying that seat belt usage had gone down in Colorado, so that certainly could have contributed to some of the jump. It would make sense that if fewer people are wearing seat belts that some accidents that were fatal might not have been fatal had seat belts been worn.
I don't think it would account for all if them, but certainly a number.
I don't think it would account for all if them, but certainly a number.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:34 pm to deeprig9
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Are you prepared to say that a 48% increase in driving fatalities is acceptable?
I researched it.
First of all, there's only a 29% increase.
And through 5/1/2017, this year is on pace to be back down to 2011 levels.
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It was legalized on Jan 1 2014.
Including pedestrians and bikes...
2013 fatalities 481
2014 fatalities 488
No significant rise.
In fact, between 2013 and 2014, all categories of fatalities fell or stayed even, except pedestrians and motorcycles, which rose modestly within any statistical margin of error.
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