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re: E. Holyfield Arrested

Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:35 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:35 am to
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No one's talking about making it legal to smoke weed and drive.

I understand but, it would seem as if most in here are for the legalization of it because it is victimless, or harmless, etc.
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We're talking about a kid being pulled out of his dorm room in the middle of the night.

It's not like they woke him up.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:37 am to
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We're talking about a kid being pulled out of his dorm room in the middle of the night.




Getting back to the main subject....do you know if there is a clear set of rules/expectations on a RA?
Was the RA out of line or doing their job?

I'm not getting back into the RA should have just ignored it. My question deals with...did the RA do what is expected of them, or sticking their nose where it didn't belong? The answer to that would clear a ton of stuff up.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:44 am to
If RAs enforced the law, they could have 2/3s of the students arrested for underage drinking or public intoxication. Maybe Holyfield was being an a-hole and playing music loudly and this was a way to get his arse... I don't know the answers in that regard.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:45 am to
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I understand but, it would seem as if most in here are for the legalization of it because it is victimless, or harmless, etc.

Smoking weed in itself is victimless, just like drinking a beer. Hitting somebody with a car is not.

The RA is likely following protocol written by UGA's lawyers. UGA has to maintain the appearance of law enforcement no matter how silly it may be. The RA is still a dork who just permanently hurt Elijah Holyfield's reputation for no good reason.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:46 am to
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If RAs enforced the law, they could have 2/3s of the students arrested for underage drinking or public intoxication. Maybe Holyfield was being an a-hole and playing music loudly and this was a way to get his arse... I don't know the answers in that regard.

also this
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:52 am to
The RA should have simply told Holyfield that the smell was noticeable and given him a warning.

Stealth cigarette one-hitters are available. You can buy 100 of them for $33. The whole team could spark up outside and pretend to be nicotine junkies.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:00 am to
Cigarettes are legal and safe at least.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:02 am to
Seriously tho, I think our players need to find comfort in the dark lord Satan. He will send them on the right path and keep them from doing all these drugs and whatnot.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:04 am to
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If RAs enforced the law, they could have 2/3s of the students arrested for underage drinking or public intoxication. Maybe Holyfield was being an a-hole and playing music loudly and this was a way to get his arse... I don't know the answers in that regard.


It's possible. Could be a personal grudge. it's been a long, loooong time since I was in college. It's an entirely different animal than when i was there.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:09 am to
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The RA is still a dork who just permanently hurt Elijah Holyfield's reputation for no good reason.


EH hurt his reputation when he did something that would hurt it.

Your argument is like saying it is a girls fault for hurting her rapists reputation by having him arrested.

(NO! I am not comparing weed to rape. I am comparing how we blame people for our own faults sometimes)

If his reputation that is hurt, it is because he decided to smoke weed.
MY opinion, only. Had he not smoked his reputation would be intact. He started the chain of events, not the RA. (I also recognize that it could be argued that had the RA not reported it, it would be all good, too)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:10 am to
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The RA should have simply told Holyfield that the smell was noticeable and given him a warning.


Probably would have been the best thing to do.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:11 am to
Well, we have tried Jesus and he has clearly failed... it's time for the dark lord Satan.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25888 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:17 am to
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Your argument is like saying it is a girls fault for hurting her rapists reputation by having him arrested.

It's not like that at all actually. EH didn't do anything to the RA. Comparing a rape victim to a RA on the hall of a dude smoking is ludicrous.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:18 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:21 am to
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It's not like that at all actually. EH didn't do anything to the RA. Comparing a rape victim to a RA on the hall of a dude smoking is ludicrous.


I knew my example was flawed.
However, my main point that I clearly failed to make was that it was Holyfield's actions that caused the problem.

This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:25 am to
comparing weed smoking to raping someone... oh what a time to be alive.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25888 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:29 am to
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However, my main point that I clearly failed to make was that it was Holyfield's actions that caused the problem.

Here's the thing. For a regular student, getting hauled to jail for a couple hours and paying a fine isn't the worst thing. It's a stupid law, but that's the cost of doing business with the law on the books.

For a football player at UGA, the little headache also comes with multiple articles in every sports section in GA and the southeast. For Elijah Holyfield, that also comes with a front page article on ESPN.com because of how famous his dad is. All of those stories will show up at or near the top of every "Elijah Holyfield" Google search for the rest of his life. That's one of the first things prospective employers will know about him.

Is that fair, or cruel and unusual punishment? Should the RA maybe exercise a little more tact than normal, knowing all that?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:30 am to
On a positive note...I just saw where Riley Ridley will probably have his charges dropped.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:32 am to
39% of people who get arrested for selling weed get raped in prison by murderers. There is a correlation....
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33099 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:35 am to
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comparing weed smoking to raping someone... oh what a time to be alive.


He keeps on making these giant reaches that totally lack relevance or make zero sense.
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