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Interesting hoax message going around about cancer
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:16 am
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:24 am to Roger Klarvin
What's sad is, I've seen this posted by 2 RNs that I know.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:33 am to Roger Klarvin
Why would anybody believe any chain post on Facebook?
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:47 am to Stacked
I dont know, but its disturbing how many people fall for the new age anti-drug medicinal crap.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 2:12 am to Stacked
quote:Don't know but they do. I've already had several people ask me about this very chain. The conversations normally included the following:
Why would anybody believe any chain post on Facebook?
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Friend: I always knew chemo did more harm than good. It's crazy that all we have to do is change our diets to stop cancer. I've already bought ______, ______, & ______.
Nino: Yeah, so crazy it almost sounds too good to be true right?
Friend: Nino, you're always soooo skeptical. This was published by John Hopkins!!!!
Nino: I wonder what Johns Hopkins has to say about all this?
Friend: Huh?
Nino: Nevermind...good luck on your new diet
Thanks for the rebuttal link Roger
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:26 am to The Nino
I have always suspected that cancer loved mucus and hated oxygen.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 7:43 am to Roger Klarvin
I have a coworker who was diagnosed with cancer. She opted out of traditional treatment and started a radical diet and lifestyle change instead. A month later, she was declared cancer free.
Anecdotal, I know, but still very real and will make me consider the same if I ever diagnosed.
Anecdotal, I know, but still very real and will make me consider the same if I ever diagnosed.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 8:55 am to Roger Klarvin
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Seeing this pop up over and over again on FB. Sad that people can fall for crap like this so easily:
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Started reading your link but stopped because I've read many articles about the diet/disease relationship. Traditional medicine recognizes the high fat/cholesterol diet to cause atherosclerosis but tend to dismiss any hard connection to diet and cancer short of ingesting radioactive material or grilling meat.
If you have not checked out Dr Campbell Mcbride do so. She has some interesting ideas and observations on diet and disease. The Dr has practiced neurology and has been a neurosurgeon so I would not say she is your typical quack. Anyway I know you're highly educated but to dismiss alternative approaches to preventing and curing disease may be a mistake, you have to believe there is some connection to lifestyle/diet to all the chronic diseases we are treating now
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:21 am to PrivatePublic
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Anecdotal, I know, but still very real and will make me consider the same if I ever diagnosed.
Well, you started off strong but then careened into a pit of "wtf."
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:45 am to PrivatePublic
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I have a coworker who was diagnosed with cancer. She opted out of traditional treatment and started a radical diet and lifestyle change instead. A month later, she was declared cancer free.
Worth a repeat.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:48 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:50 am to PrivatePublic
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I have a coworker who was diagnosed with cancer. She opted out of traditional treatment and started a radical diet and lifestyle change instead. A month later, she was declared cancer free.
Anecdotal, I know, but still very real and will make me consider the same if I ever diagnosed.
You're right, it is anecdotal.
Steve Jobs would still be alive today had he opted for traditional treatment instead of spending nine months eating like a vegan, drinking herbal tea and sitting in saunas.
I hope for your sake you would follow medical advice.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:51 am to Roger Klarvin
seems like good advice to live a healthy lifestyle and hopefully decrease chances of cancer.
If I get cancer will still be headed to the doctor though.
If I get cancer will still be headed to the doctor though.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 11:52 am to Sleeping Tiger
Didn't work for Steve Jobs. That's worth repeating too.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:01 pm to JoeMoTiger
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Started reading your link but stopped because I've read many articles about the diet/disease relationship. Traditional medicine recognizes the high fat/cholesterol diet to cause atherosclerosis but tend to dismiss any hard connection to diet and cancer short of ingesting radioactive material or grilling meat.
This is just blatantly false. It is well established that high saturated fat diets increase the risk for colon, pancreatic and liver cancer. Eating cured meats increases the risk of gastric cancer. Diet and exercise can play a role in cancer development and that isnt what this psuedo-science article is about.
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If you have not checked out Dr Campbell Mcbride do so. She has some interesting ideas and observations on diet and disease. The Dr has practiced neurology and has been a neurosurgeon so I would not say she is your typical quack. Anyway I know you're highly educated but to dismiss alternative approaches to preventing and curing disease may be a mistake, you have to believe there is some connection to lifestyle/diet to all the chronic diseases we are treating now
Natasha Campbell McBride is a quack who believes vaccines cause autism, that autism and can be cured with diet and that cancer is largely psychological.
And you find a single doctor who denies poor lifestyle choices increase the risk for disease. None, because it is established clinical science. The issue is what we do once we have disease.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:02 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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If I get cancer will still be headed to the doctor though.
This is the point
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:08 pm to Charlestondawg
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Didn't work for Steve Jobs. That's worth repeating too.
The Steve Jobs example is extremely irresponsible.
His type of cancer is very hard to detect, it was caught very late, it's believed he had cancer since his early 20s, some say late teens from working with very strong toxins since age 14.
The type of cancer he had has an exceedingly low survival rate, regardless of the method of care.
We drop dollars in buckets to find a cure, instead we should be focusing on changing the way we live. The food industry is criminal, the way stress ourselves to work-to-live is unnecessary, and the toxic elements we introduce to ourselves thanks to a cultural system that doesn't value the planet all play huge roles in causing cancer.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
Curious as to what you think about what Sgt Shiff testified in that link.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:10 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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You need to watch this video of Sgt. Schiff testifying about his daughter.
It's a classic.
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There is a scientific consensus that antineoplaston therapy is unproven and of little promise in treating cancer. Clinical trials initiated in 1993 and sponsored by the National Cancer Institute were closed due to inability to recruit qualifying patients, and a Mayo Clinic study found no benefit from antineoplaston treatment.[1] Some sixty phase 2 clinical trials and one Phase 3 trial have been registered by Burzynski since the mid-1990s, but no results have been published. The Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center has stated: "Bottom Line: There is no clear evidence to support the anticancer effects of antineoplastons in humans."[1]
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In June 2012, antineoplaston trials were paused following the death of a child patient. In January and February 2013, the FDA inspected Burzynski and his IRB in Houston. In December 2013, the FDA issued its findings in warning letters to Burzynski, expressing "concerns about subject safety and data integrity, as well as concerns about the adequacy of safeguards in place at your site to protect patients [...]."
Since 1999, Burzynski has been sued by patients a combined 73 times.
For every patient who uses alternative cancer therapy to get better, I'll show you one who spontaneously remitted without doing anything and ten who died using alternative means.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
You missed the point, which isn't surprising.
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