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re: Kevin Steele new DC
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:45 am to Rhino5
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:45 am to Rhino5
You are making a comparison with stats without taking into account NFL talent, strength of schedule differences, coaching changes generally, etc. If you're really trying to dissect a sound point, you aren't using enough info.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:49 am to rbWarEagle
Lol, the guy I was responding to said 2015 LSU was statistically better than 2014 LSU, which isn't the case. We could spend all off season debating which was truly better.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 7:51 am to jangalang
He was being sarcastic
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:01 am to lowspark12
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He was being sarcastic
Lol how was that sarcasm??
Nevermind, that was a rhetorical question. B.B is a grown man and is capable of defending himself. Please shut the frick up, Spark.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:15 am to Rhino5
Check out FearlessFreep's post on the rant yesterday about the two seasons in comparison. I'd find it but I'm on mobile, so frick that.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:30 am to Rhymenoceros
I'm curious what the melters thought was going to happen?
We have not fielded a defense in 5 years that has allowed less than 400 yards per game and less than 28 points per SEC game. Not many coaches are going to hitch their wagon to that and there isn't a coach in the world that can fix that overnight. We got an average hire for a below average defense. You guys actually think Gus waited to make a hire? Come on. I think it took so long because Gus was told no thanks by multiple people. All we can do is hope against hope the defense improves. At least, for once, we will have a DC stick around for a few years (assuming Gus stays).
We have not fielded a defense in 5 years that has allowed less than 400 yards per game and less than 28 points per SEC game. Not many coaches are going to hitch their wagon to that and there isn't a coach in the world that can fix that overnight. We got an average hire for a below average defense. You guys actually think Gus waited to make a hire? Come on. I think it took so long because Gus was told no thanks by multiple people. All we can do is hope against hope the defense improves. At least, for once, we will have a DC stick around for a few years (assuming Gus stays).
This post was edited on 12/31/15 at 8:31 am
Posted on 12/31/15 at 8:39 am to TheMightyTerrier
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We have not fielded a defense in 5 years that has allowed less than 400 yards per game and less than 28 points per SEC game. Not many coaches are going to hitch their wagon to that and there isn't a coach in the world that can fix that overnight. We got an average hire for a below average defense. You guys actually think Gus waited to make a hire? Come on. I think it took so long because Gus was told no thanks by multiple people. All we can do is hope against hope the defense improves. At least, for once, we will have a DC stick around for a few years (assuming Gus stays).
Honestly I'm not sure what would have been better. I said yesterday this strikes me as Ellis Johnson, but with a better resume and history of connecting with good defensive programs and coaches.
It was either that, or go with the wildcard first time coordinator or fairly new coordinator (Allen).
FWIW, I don't think we got turned down that much. My expectation is that we went hard for Kelly, missed, flirted with Shoop but didn't get much interest, and in the process of feeling out whether to hire Allen or promote LT or something similar, we got wind Steele may not mind a move.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:07 am to Pettifogger
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FWIW, I don't think we got turned down that much.
I totally believe a lot of coaches expressed no interest in the job. I don't think anyone other than Kelly was offered and rejected the job
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:25 am to TheMightyTerrier
I hope my initial reaction was wrong, and this ends up being a good hire. As of now, I doubt it tho. This reminded me of my initial reaction to the Chizik hire, and we all know how that turned out. Personally, I would have rather had CLT, especially after the way the D reacted and performed yesterday.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 9:37 am to WDE01
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This reminded me of my initial reaction to the Chizik hire, and we all know how that turned out.
With a national championship?
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I would have rather had CLT, especially after the way the D reacted and performed yesterday.
I'd rather have Steele as a DC but I would choose LT for $800k over Steele for $1.3mil. We need to stop over paying for assistants
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:35 am to GenesChin
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We need to stop over paying for assistants
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:39 am to GenesChin
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with a national championship?
With a dumpster fire of a program, with which we're still feeling some of the effects from.
At this point, it's irrelevant. I just want us to field a Defense again. I miss our D from the Tubbs days!
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:39 am to slacker130
If you want good coaches you need to pay. It's not like we can't afford it.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 10:41 am to CrazyCadillac
Our problem is we pay for not decent coaches, and then pay for them to not coach us anymore.
#FireJJ
#FireJJ
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:02 am to WDE01
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Personally, I would have rather had CLT, especially after the way the D reacted and performed yesterday.
I keep reading this a lot. What if we had given up 450 yards and 35 points. Would that have changed your mind? I don't want to give the job to a lifelong assistant after one game in which he had a month to prepare.
I don't really know what I want or think should happen. I just know we weren't in a good negotiating position and this isn't a completely atrocious outcome. I do wish we would quit spending so much money, but that is the nature of the game now.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 1:22 pm to CrazyCadillac
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If you want good coaches you need to pay.
Right. Hire good coaches and pay them $. Not average coaches and pay like they're top shelf.
Posted on 1/4/16 at 7:58 am to CrazyCadillac
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If you want good coaches you need to pay. It's not like we can't afford it.
A lot of teams have great coaching staffs for a fraction of the price who have better production and on par recruiting
#2 Highest paid Assistant Coaching Staff
According to CoachingSearch
OC - #10 - Rhett Lashlee
RB - #9 - Tim Horton
WR - #1 - Dameyune Craig
TE - #6 - Scott Fountain
OL - #14 - JB Grimes
DC - #1 - Will Muschamp
DL - #2 - Rodney Garner
LB -
? - Lance Thompson (likely top 4-5) DB - #1 - TRob
The only coaches on the list who seems somewhat reasonably ranked are Horton & JB Grimes. Our OL & RB are the two areas that are consistently solid with players being coached up as the year goes on.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 8:35 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:31 am to GenesChin
I think Horton has done a great job with the RBs and is definitely worth what he is paid.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:35 am to DuncanIdaho
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I think Horton has done a great job with the RBs and is definitely worth what he is paid.
Complete oversight. You make good points and I edited it to include Horton in addition to Grimes
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:35 am to DuncanIdaho
Horton, Fountain, and Grimes have all done solid jobs... SF also coordinates special teams, who have been very good. Craig is an elite recruiter who is somehow managing to talk highly ranked WRs into coming here... he's worth it.
Really, outside of lashlee, the other offensive assistants I have no problem with their salaries.
Really, outside of lashlee, the other offensive assistants I have no problem with their salaries.
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