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re: Inevitable Coaching Search Thread

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Posted by Danger54
Eclectic, AL
Member since Sep 2017
554 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:05 pm to
LANE KIFFIN

Pros:
Recruiting
Offensive Play Calling
HC Experience (NFL, SEC, & USC)
Hates Nick Saban
Good Promoter of Program
Excellent Interview
Young with Winning Pedigree

Cons:
Reckless with Media & NCAA
Possibly would bring K. Briles
Only one 10 win season
AU too stuck up to consider him
Not "likeable"
Prefers big city living

I think he would be excellent compared to a pool of "reasonable" candidates. His best years are ahead of him when somebody at a big program gives him a shot again. If he did bring Kendal Briles, it might not be a bad thing considering the Stidham comfort/connection. He won some big games at USC while being mired in the second worse (1st: Penn St.) NCAA sanctions in the past 20 years. The only issue is getting the stuffy BoT to even consider interviewing him...

We need a young, fearless coach with a little swagger about him to help us break out of our funk and be a national power for the next 15 years. Pat Dye was a Bryant assistant and was just what AU needed to end the reign of Bama terror. Kiffin could very well be our next Pat Dye, worth considering...

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:06 pm to
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Ok so let's hire a guy that can't even make the conference championship at USC with an NFL qb. Point made, good talk


You mean the guy who finished AP #5 despite having no senior class, with a QB he developed at USC? The guy who beat both teams who played in Pac12 champ game?

Same guy who is on pace to make Pac12 championship game this year?
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30100 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:08 pm to
Oh make it this year fighting Arizona and Arizona state lol

Agree to disagree come talk to me in 2 years if you stil think this guy is a great coach


Maybe one of your sisters, best friends, cousins in the AD heard we were hiring him. I'll cheer for him
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted by Danger54
Eclectic, AL
Member since Sep 2017
554 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:10 pm to
Clay Helton would be a good hire. I don't see a scenario where we could persuade him to come to Auburn though. He is making 3.8m and the way this season is heading, he's headed towards a raise and extension. He would probably flirt with us for leverage in contract negotiations.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:12 pm to
The argument is over you saying he is a disappointment which is dumb AF as I pointed out

If you are arguing that we don't know if he is a good coach yet, you won't hear me disagreeing. Too early to tell


The point doesnt matter anyways, he won't leave USC for AU unless he disappoints there. If he disappoints there, we don't want him
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30100 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:15 pm to
Whatever you say
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17300 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:54 am to
quote:

The point doesnt matter anyways, he won't leave USC for AU unless he disappoints there. If he disappoints there, we don't want him
Like I said above, it would be a long shot. I could see him leaving if he just didn't like living in SoCal.

I don't expect us to go after him - but he's the sort of HC we SHOULD go after. All this Chip Kelly/Jon Gruden nonsense is truly a (crack)pipe dream. Our chances of pulling Helton from USC, while infinitesimally small, are still an order of magnitude greater than many of the names mentioned ITT.

The only concern I would have about Helton would be the one thing that might make him consider coming here- his AU ties. I really feel we need to break with the past this time, hire someone who has no history with the program (other than possibly competing against it) and give them enough responsibility to run it without interference.
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
3368 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:23 am to
Tier 1. Stoops
Kelly

Tier 2. Petrino
Kiffin
Venables
Mullen
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Tier 2. Petrino
Kiffin
Venables
Mullen



Literally don't want ANY of those guys.

I'd rather be looking at Frost, Fuente, Fleck, and Brohm.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:35 am to
quote:

LANE KIFFIN
Pros: Recruiting Offensive Play Calling HC Experience (NFL, SEC, & USC) Hates Nick Saban Good Promoter of Program Excellent Interview Young with Winning Pedigree
Cons: Reckless with Media & NCAA Possibly would bring K. Briles Only one 10 win season AU too stuck up to consider him Not "likeable" Prefers big city living



I'm all aboard the Lane train. In fact, I'm the captain.
Posted by ShredSquatch
Parts Unkownn
Member since Jan 2015
1085 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Tier 2.
Mullen


I don't get this? Someone explain to me why Mullen would be a good hire???
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I don't get this? Someone explain to me why Mullen would be a good hire???


He would be a "safe" hire. Probably guaranteed 8 wins a year. Hiring mullen would be like conceding to mediocrity IMO
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4689 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:40 am to
Wouldn't we be bullet proof with Lane? Bring in a big bagman and if anything comes from the NCAA he can roll on Saban.
Posted by ShredSquatch
Parts Unkownn
Member since Jan 2015
1085 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Hiring mullen would be like conceding to mediocrity IMO


Good analysis!!!

None of names so far fire me up but Stoops. I think Kelly would be Gus 2.0, Petrino used to but he seems to crap the bed in the big games so I'm not sure he wouldn't do the same here.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48983 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Tier 2. Petrino
Kiffin
Venables
Mullen


LOL get this shite out of here
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Hiring mullen would be like conceding to mediocrity IMO
Completely disagree. Mullen has done a phenomenal job of bringing Ms. St. out of the pits of nothingness. Not sure there is any other coach out there that would have had the success Mullen has had over the years, specifically with regard to Ms. St.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 10:09 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:


I don't get this? Someone explain to me why Mullen would be a good hire???



I don't want Mullen, but the argument points to Mullen captaining the winningest stretch in MSU history during his tenure

quote:

Hiring mullen would be like conceding to mediocrity IMO


I'd point out that Nick Saban was hired at LSU from Michigan St after going

95- 6-5-1
96- 6-6
97- 7-5
98- 6-6
99- 9-2


Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
2212 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:19 am to
quote:

LANE KIFFIN


Cannot downvote enough.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:26 am to
I don’t think he would be a bad hire. He is killing it in recruiting ATM (considering). I just personally think we should offer a few top guys 10 MM a year, and make them say no.

ETA:

For a long term solution, I would be good with keeping Gus another year and firing JJ. Get a great AD, and allow him to evaluate the situation.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 11:28 am
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Tier 2. Petrino
Kiffin
Venables
Mullen


WTF

Gus beat Petrino with JJ. Petrino is presently on course to make the Sun Bowl with Lamar Jackson at QB.

Kiffin is a train wreck.

Venables is a decent option if we go coordinator, but there is no basis for putting him near the top of the overall list.

Mullen is ripe for another job, but at a lower level than AU.
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