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Posted on 7/15/13 at 3:11 pm to WonderWartHawg
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As far as I know, the only illegal things Dyer has done is smoke a little spice and speeding.
More than a little, enough failed tests for him to be suspended from Auburn's 2011 bowl game.
Not just speeding, he had a concealed hand gun in the car without a C/C permit, this led to his dismissal from stAte. But it was understandable since Jonesboro is such a rough town.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 4:05 pm to DaleDenton
Dale, from what I understand, the handgun was concealed alright, it was unloaded and in the locked trunk.
It was legally owned too, not stolen or anything.
It was legally owned too, not stolen or anything.
This post was edited on 7/15/13 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 7/15/13 at 4:07 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Dale, from what I understand, the handgun was concealed alright, it was unloaded and in the locked trunk.
It was legally owned too, not stolen or anything.
This. If this is illegal then Arkansas has some fricked up laws.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 4:26 pm to The_Joker
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This. If this is illegal then Arkansas has some fricked up laws.
You can carry in your passegner side seat as long as your are on a journey...As long as the gun is visable.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 4:47 pm to sugatowng
Sheriff told me that you can have a gun in your car, even under your seat or in the door compartment. It just can't be loaded and the ammo has to be located in a different location
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:05 am to Hawgeye
The thing people want to leave out is that he has no criminal record. Every one of us has done something illegal but we either didn't get caught or got let off with no charges.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:35 am to HomebrewHawg
Dyer had weed in the car, too, not just a gun. That Dyer doesn't have a criminal record despite this, and that Malzahn didn't release Dyer until the full account of the incident was leaked (4 months later), is an indictment of both Dyer as a frick-up who doesn't learn his lesson and Malzahn for covering for him.
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I'm not sure how many other people would be let go with only a $175 fine and community service after getting pulled over going 97 in a 70 and caught with drugs and a gun. It should be pretty clear by now that Michael Dyer doesn't have a criminal record because he is a high profile football player, not despite it.
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I'm not sure how many other people would be let go with only a $175 fine and community service after getting pulled over going 97 in a 70 and caught with drugs and a gun. It should be pretty clear by now that Michael Dyer doesn't have a criminal record because he is a high profile football player, not despite it.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:38 am to WonderWartHawg
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Dale, from what I understand, the handgun was concealed alright, it was unloaded and in the locked trunk. It was legally owned too, not stolen or anything.
It gets a little more complicated with drugs in the car. Even if everything with the firearm is legal, down to having your CCL with you, the possession of drugs with the firearm makes it a crime
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:34 am to Raz4back
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It gets a little more complicated with drugs in the car. Even if everything with the firearm is legal, down to having your CCL with you, the possession of drugs with the firearm makes it a crime
Yes and speeding over 25mph can carry an additional criminal charge besides just a speeding ticket.
I'm sure he's straightened up, because the legal system was sooo hard on him and taught him a valuable life lesson, he isn't just worried about being able to play FBS football in a BCS conference or anything.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:36 am to DaleDenton
The trooper got fired for (among other things) taking the gun.
Yes, I realize all of the problems and legal issues, I'm just saying they weren't as serious as some folks make them out to be.
Yes, I realize all of the problems and legal issues, I'm just saying they weren't as serious as some folks make them out to be.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:45 am to WonderWartHawg
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Yes, I realize all of the problems and legal issues, I'm just saying they weren't as serious as some folks make them out to be.
if he was anybody else caught speeding with a gun and weed, he would've been taken straight to jail.
he put himself in that position almost immediately after getting dismissed from Auburn for failing drug tests and, if you believe the rumors, being a smug prima donna locker room cancer (not to mention his indirect involvement in an armed robbery). It shows at best extremely questionable decision making skills, and at worst (and more realistically) an attitude that rules don't apply to him and he just doesn't give a frick.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:46 am to DaleDenton
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I'm sure he's straightened up, because the legal system was sooo hard on him and taught him a valuable life lesson, he isn't just worried about being able to play FBS football in a BCS conference or anything.
You honestly think getting kicked off 2 football teams and being thought of as a POS by much of the country isn't enough to humble someone and maybe turn the light on to get things turned around? Really?
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:51 am to The_Joker
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You honestly think getting kicked off 2 football teams and being thought of as a POS by much of the country isn't enough to humble someone and maybe turn the light on to get things turned around? Really?
Re-read what you just wrote. Kicked off two football teams and considered a POS by much of the country. How is that an argument in his favor?
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:52 am to WaveHog
i'm all for letting him have an opportunity to get kicked off a third team. but he should do it at some other school at a lower level, like the Troys, USF's and Western Kentucky's that are going after him. and if an upper-level team like Louisville, TCU, or Arkansas took him on, I would definitely lose a bit of respect for the coaching staff.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:59 am to WaveHog
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Re-read what you just wrote. Kicked off two football teams and considered a POS by much of the country. How is that an argument in his favor?
.... Did you stop reading right before
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humble someone and maybe turn the light on to get things turned around
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:00 pm to WaveHog
Dyer isn't an idiot. He's made mistakes, yeah but he isn't stupid. He knows he needs to be a perfect angel at the next school and that it's his last chance.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:02 pm to The_Joker
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Dyer isn't an idiot. He's made mistakes, yeah but he isn't stupid.
you sure about that?
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He knows he needs to be a perfect angel at the next school and that it's his last chance.
Should've been his attitude at ASU. That it wasn't makes me question your first statement of this post.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:05 pm to The_Joker
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... Did you stop reading right before
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humble someone and maybe turn the light on to get things turned around
oh i read it. still a ridiculous supposition. "He's been kicked out of two schools for misbehavior and illegal acts, this is the perfect time to pick him up."
like i said, i don't think he should be banned from all universities or anything. but he doesn't deserve yet another chance at a top-level BCS school. Let him prove himself in the Sun Belt.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 12:08 pm to WaveHog
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Should've been his attitude at ASU. That it wasn't makes me question your first statement of this post.
No shite. But it wasn't. That doesn't mean it isn't his attitude now. I don't know why you don't get that. With so many people at ABC vouching for him and everything he's said, some if you blow it off like they're all lying. Still butthurt about what he did as an 18 year old like most of hogville is? It's funny to me how a high school kid who they'll never meet can make adults so mad.
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