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re: As the Dyer Turns.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:30 pm to RunningBlake
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:30 pm to RunningBlake
Make it happen Bert.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 9:39 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Make it happen Bert.
For real, dudes a man amongst boys at this point in his athletic career and could really standout in a run first pound it offense. Im in. Everyone else does shady shite to win, Im tired of trying to be integrity U
Posted on 7/10/13 at 6:51 am to Hubbhogg
None of them are willing to put their name on it publicly but several members of the media are saying this will happen. I guess we will find out if their "sources" know anything or not.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:11 pm to Woopigsooie20
quote:DO WANT! Anything to help this team get out of this rebuilding patch even faster. The more W's we get, the faster the program gets back to the 2011 mold.
Dyer told USA TODAY Sports he'd like to stay home, saying that even if another school offered a scholarship, "If Arkansas said I could walk on, I'd go walk on at Arkansas."
Posted on 7/10/13 at 6:34 pm to Drewbie
It would be somewhat hypocritical for me to not want Dyer to have a chance as a Razorback...I was all for giving Petrino another shot.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:12 pm to Porky
quote:Same. I was ok with dude cheating on his wife as far as keeping his job. That has nothing to do with football. But I knew he was sunk when the whole job and payment thing came out. Whole different can of worms.
I was all for giving Petrino another shot.
However, Dyer was just young and stupid. I'm all for giving this kid a chance to be a Razorback. Especially if he's willing to turn down full rides to be a walk-on.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:18 pm to Drewbie
Agreed on Petrino. When he hired her you knew it wouldn't end well here. If he had done that at another program though I would have been fine with them bringing him here. Same with Dyer. He did some stupid shite at Auburn but that doesn't mean I wouldn't give him a shot here.
Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:33 pm to Porky
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However, Dyer was just young and stupid. I'm all for giving this kid a chance to be a Razorback. Especially if he's willing to turn down full rides to be a walk-on.
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Agreed on Petrino. When he hired her you knew it wouldn't end well here. If he had done that at another program though I would have been fine with them bringing him here. Same with Dyer. He did some stupid shite at Auburn but that doesn't mean I wouldn't give him a shot here.
I agree with you both...
We had to cut our losses with Petrino...and I'm optimistic with Bielema at this point.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 7/11/13 at 9:48 am to Porky
Dyer is the perfect opportunity to show in-state kids they can't come home again.
Its tiring seeing guys like the Green brothers flame out at other programs then instead of the logical explanation of they were not good enough for them, so we don't need them, instead its they were whatever star players out of HS and should be welcomed back with open arms. This strategy is fine for programs like UCA, Tech, and stAte, but I would think of us as being above it.
Dyer is only interested in Arkansas for his own personal gain, just like he was interested in Auburn for the same reason out of HS, which is fine, but he flamed out of Auburn and stAte since then.
He shouldn't get a scholarship, he shouldn't be allowed to walk-on as one year of having him can stunt the development and growth of our current backfield assuming he is good enough to take carries from them, his attitude in the locker room and off the field could have a longer lasting impact on the team (see the basketball team as an example).
Its tiring seeing guys like the Green brothers flame out at other programs then instead of the logical explanation of they were not good enough for them, so we don't need them, instead its they were whatever star players out of HS and should be welcomed back with open arms. This strategy is fine for programs like UCA, Tech, and stAte, but I would think of us as being above it.
Dyer is only interested in Arkansas for his own personal gain, just like he was interested in Auburn for the same reason out of HS, which is fine, but he flamed out of Auburn and stAte since then.
He shouldn't get a scholarship, he shouldn't be allowed to walk-on as one year of having him can stunt the development and growth of our current backfield assuming he is good enough to take carries from them, his attitude in the locker room and off the field could have a longer lasting impact on the team (see the basketball team as an example).
Posted on 7/11/13 at 11:24 am to DaleDenton
Oh Dale Denton that's too much good logic and sense.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:08 pm to DaleDenton
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Dyer is the perfect opportunity to show in-state kids they can't come home again.
Its tiring seeing guys like the Green brothers flame out at other programs then instead of the logical explanation of they were not good enough for them, so we don't need them, instead its they were whatever star players out of HS and should be welcomed back with open arms. This strategy is fine for programs like UCA, Tech, and stAte, but I would think of us as being above it.
Dyer is only interested in Arkansas for his own personal gain, just like he was interested in Auburn for the same reason out of HS, which is fine, but he flamed out of Auburn and stAte since then.
He shouldn't get a scholarship, he shouldn't be allowed to walk-on as one year of having him can stunt the development and growth of our current backfield assuming he is good enough to take carries from them, his attitude in the locker room and off the field could have a longer lasting impact on the team (see the basketball team as an example).
Sorry Dale, but this post is so hypocritical. What in the frick are we doing when we recruit players? Are we not doing that for our own personal gain? How are we, or any other university no matter the size or prestige, above giving a certain individual the same available opportunities as anybody else that is enrolled at the UofA? He shouldn't get a scholarship unless he earns it, but he should be allowed to try out for the team just like any other swinging dick on campus is allowed. If he's good enough then he'll get a shot to walk-on. From there he can earn a chance to play and eventually even a chance for a scholarship if he earns it. One of the biggest things that bothers me about our fanbase is the extreme jilted girlfriend syndrome we have when in-state players leave the state, although with Dyer/Mosely I understood because they were douches about it. Doesn't mean we should black ball his arse from all things Razorback.
The basketball team was a good example of coaches that don't take care of locker room issues, and unlike Fortson, Dyer has already fallen on his arse a couple times so hopefully at this point in his life he's realized some sort of personal introspection. If he's still a shite head then Bert should drill his arse like he does 20 year old blonde chicks and if that doesn't work kick him off. Just treat him like everybody else, there's no need to have some heir of superiority or ex-girlfriend vendetta.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:12 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
quote:Motherfricking this.
One of the biggest things that bothers me about our fanbase is the extreme jilted girlfriend syndrome we have when in-state players leave the state
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:22 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
LOL.
He hasn't been hit in live football action in almost 2 years, but people think he will come back like his Freshman year at Auburn when him being like a timid Knile Davis of last, in other words worthless as far as wins are concerned is just as likely.
If he wasn't from Arkansas, he would not have the support for being given his 5th chance in the past 2 years at playing FBS football. It has nothing to do with him not going to Arkansas as a freshman, which is fine, but the UofA isn't a golden parachute for instate kids to use when the flame out at other schools, in Dyer's case twice for drug use and not this isn't even taking into consideration the gun he loaned to team mates that was used in a home invasion.
But whatevs, Broderick Green was said to be the key piece coming back from SC, going to improve the back field, etc although he never did anything of note besides steal carries from Johnson and Davis while he was here.
It isn't a jilted lover mindset, its not caring if he is given his 6th chance here or not, just because it is us doesn't make it OK and the whole idea different than Ole Miss taking Masoli, Henderson, etc.
Mike Anderson had the balls to tell Jones to take his problems with him to aTm, just because Dyer was told he needed to play another year before the NFL was interested doesn't mean the UofA is at his disposal for on the job training.
If he was truly a changed person, clean, etc. Gus would take him back and give him his shot, but there was far more that went on at Auburn and stAte than has been let out. Gus knows better or he would be taking him back right now, Dr. Hill seeing him on his best behavior for a couple months doesn't change who Dyer is...
He hasn't been hit in live football action in almost 2 years, but people think he will come back like his Freshman year at Auburn when him being like a timid Knile Davis of last, in other words worthless as far as wins are concerned is just as likely.
If he wasn't from Arkansas, he would not have the support for being given his 5th chance in the past 2 years at playing FBS football. It has nothing to do with him not going to Arkansas as a freshman, which is fine, but the UofA isn't a golden parachute for instate kids to use when the flame out at other schools, in Dyer's case twice for drug use and not this isn't even taking into consideration the gun he loaned to team mates that was used in a home invasion.
But whatevs, Broderick Green was said to be the key piece coming back from SC, going to improve the back field, etc although he never did anything of note besides steal carries from Johnson and Davis while he was here.
It isn't a jilted lover mindset, its not caring if he is given his 6th chance here or not, just because it is us doesn't make it OK and the whole idea different than Ole Miss taking Masoli, Henderson, etc.
Mike Anderson had the balls to tell Jones to take his problems with him to aTm, just because Dyer was told he needed to play another year before the NFL was interested doesn't mean the UofA is at his disposal for on the job training.
If he was truly a changed person, clean, etc. Gus would take him back and give him his shot, but there was far more that went on at Auburn and stAte than has been let out. Gus knows better or he would be taking him back right now, Dr. Hill seeing him on his best behavior for a couple months doesn't change who Dyer is...
This post was edited on 7/11/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:40 pm to DaleDenton
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He hasn't been hit in live football action in almost 2 years, but people think he will come back like his Freshman year at Auburn when him being like a timid Knile Davis of last, in other words worthless as far as wins are concerned is just as likely.
Which is my point, he should be given a chance to try out for the practice team/walk-on. Shouldn't just be given a spot.
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but the UofA isn't a golden parachute for instate kids to use when the flame out at other schools, in Dyer's case twice for drug use and not this isn't even taking into consideration the gun he loaned to team mates that was used in a home invasion.
If we gave him a scholly or spot that would be the case, but that's not what I'm saying nor what any communication from the university has been saying. Just let him try out, it's not a "golden parachute" if he has to work his arse off to even be considered for the practice squad. In terms of his legal troubles from my understanding they are resolved and very much shown on his record. He's done what he should have, it's not up to public opinion to put him on another trial.
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, Broderick Green was said to be the key piece coming back from SC, going to improve the back field, etc although he never did anything of note besides steal carries from Johnson and Davis while he was here.
Hence the try out, etc.
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just because it is us doesn't make it OK and the whole idea different than Ole Miss taking Masoli, Henderson, etc.
I'm not suggesting they give him a scholarship which was the case with those two. However, scholarship not withstanding what was wrong with giving Masoli and Henderson second chances other than message board ammunition and having to deal with watching Marshall be a douche? I would hope a coach would reel a player in, given a player like Marshall's antics. But I still don't know why it's a "black eye" or "desperate" situation to let a player try out.
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Mike Anderson had the balls to tell Jones to take his problems with him to aTm
And if Dyer starts problems Bert should do the same.
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If he was truly a changed person, clean, etc. Gus would take him back and give him is shot, but there was far more that went on at Auburn and stAte than has been let out
This is absolutely a fair point and a concern I share, but it still doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to at least try out. If more comes out that he is liable for legally, or nothing has changed with him then kick him off. Not that hard.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:45 pm to DaleDenton
i'm kinda torn on this one, so i'll go with whatever bb chooses.
i am for 2nd chances generally so if he'd just made the snarky comments before choosing auburn i could get past that. but that plus the drug issues, his gun in the robbery, etc. all that makes me extremely weary of him.
speaking of, have we even had any arrests this off season? *knocks on wood*
i am for 2nd chances generally so if he'd just made the snarky comments before choosing auburn i could get past that. but that plus the drug issues, his gun in the robbery, etc. all that makes me extremely weary of him.
speaking of, have we even had any arrests this off season? *knocks on wood*
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:49 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
I think what you are missing is Dyer isn't asking for a tryout, he is demanding a spot on the team.
Yes, if he wanted to enroll into the school, figure out how to pay, etc. then try out for the team that is one thing, but what he is doing was first demanding a scholarship from Arkansas and Tennessee, when none came, he is now demanding a spot on the team as a walk-on before he would enroll.
That isn't a kid grateful for a last chance, that shows some signs of little change in character, he may pass the drug tests, but the person has experience little change outside of Dr. Hill teaching him how to put up a good front.
He has scholarship offers to WKU and other schools like that, but he is putting out there that they are "below him" by not taking those and insisting he has a spot @ Arkansas, that should give a little more insight to his thinking and character...
He thinks he has leverage to get it done and possibly play in the SEC again, he sees this as worth more $$$ in regards to the NFL while paying out of pocket than taking one of the free rides offered at a lower level of ball...
We have a good group of backs, what we don't need is another Freddie Fairchild causing problems off the field in a coaches first year, Fairchild was worth keeping in regards to wins by play on the field, but was far more damaging off...
Yes, if he wanted to enroll into the school, figure out how to pay, etc. then try out for the team that is one thing, but what he is doing was first demanding a scholarship from Arkansas and Tennessee, when none came, he is now demanding a spot on the team as a walk-on before he would enroll.
That isn't a kid grateful for a last chance, that shows some signs of little change in character, he may pass the drug tests, but the person has experience little change outside of Dr. Hill teaching him how to put up a good front.
He has scholarship offers to WKU and other schools like that, but he is putting out there that they are "below him" by not taking those and insisting he has a spot @ Arkansas, that should give a little more insight to his thinking and character...
He thinks he has leverage to get it done and possibly play in the SEC again, he sees this as worth more $$$ in regards to the NFL while paying out of pocket than taking one of the free rides offered at a lower level of ball...
We have a good group of backs, what we don't need is another Freddie Fairchild causing problems off the field in a coaches first year, Fairchild was worth keeping in regards to wins by play on the field, but was far more damaging off...
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:51 pm to piggilicious
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i am for 2nd chances generally so if he'd just made the snarky comments before choosing auburn i could get past that. but that plus the drug issues, his gun in the robbery, etc. all that makes me extremely weary of him.
This isn't a 2nd chance, he had that at Auburn (as well as a 3rd, 4th, and 5th) then Gus took him in at stAte and gave him 3 more chances.
Petrino is willing to give him his 9th+ chance at WKU.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 1:52 pm to Porky
Isn't Dyer like 23 now? He is a grown man now I guess. Maybe he could help us
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:54 pm to Hogwall Jackson
Everyone is in this business to use each other. Coaches are using players to get paid more, players are using coaches/schools to get to the NFL, etc....that is just how it works.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:17 pm to DaleDenton
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he is demanding a spot on the team.
I'm guessing I missed this. This is factual or assumed?
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