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re: I hope some of you got a clearer picture of the passing game tonight
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:58 pm to OldPete
Posted on 10/8/17 at 1:58 pm to OldPete
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How do you figure that? Hurts completions in games thus far:
2016: 6, 23, 19, 16, 20, 13, 17, 15, 10, 28, 15, 27, 11, 7, 13
Jet sweeps...technically a pass, but for all practical purposes a handoff...shouldn't even be considered when evaluating passing statistics. And I don't put that much stock in bubble screens, either, when evaluating our passing game. The reality is that for almost a full season now, we haven't had much of a downfield passing game, and it's for a variety of reasons...poor pass protection, bad route running, receivers not working back to the QB when he's under pressure, receivers dropping balls, a QB that doesn't check down to secondary receivers very well and is quick to bail on the pocket and run. It is what it is.
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Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:10 pm to BamaGradinTn
What Mond did against our defense is more impressive than what a seasoned Hurts did against their defense. We can and will win a lot of games with Hurts but we won't beat a good team this year like Clemson or Auburn.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:12 pm to Commander Data
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We can and will win a lot of games with Hurts but we won't beat a good team this year like Clemson or Auburn.
We know, you've said it at least 5 times in the last 24 hours.
We get it.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Everyone is melting today but one thing I haven't seen acknowledged enough is Aggie has a legit front seven. Chavis is a damn good coach and they have some really good players on defense...fast, athletic guys. It wasn't a good showing but Aggie is underrated...how they blew the UCLA game is beyond me. Plus it was at their house and they brought it hard.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:40 pm to 14&Counting
Every week we have to freak out about something.
I don't know how many seasons have to ebb and flow before people figure out that things change week to week.
I don't know how many seasons have to ebb and flow before people figure out that things change week to week.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Here is the one thing that Jalen has that NO other starter has in the SEC:
the "it' factor.
How many times has he pulled out that clutch throw or run to pick up the necessary first down? Hell, he even did it against Clemson last year that should have been "the drive" for Bama for 2016, but the defense let it slip away.
Tua has yet to play when needed. Can he handle the pressure of a 2 minute drive for a win? Perhaps, but we don't know that yet.
Until Hurts starts losing Bama games, I am more than satisfied.
the "it' factor.
How many times has he pulled out that clutch throw or run to pick up the necessary first down? Hell, he even did it against Clemson last year that should have been "the drive" for Bama for 2016, but the defense let it slip away.
Tua has yet to play when needed. Can he handle the pressure of a 2 minute drive for a win? Perhaps, but we don't know that yet.
Until Hurts starts losing Bama games, I am more than satisfied.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Michigan lost, OU lost, and Clemson struggled with Wake Forest
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:01 pm to 14&Counting
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Michigan lost, OU lost, and Clemson struggled with Wake Forest
Yep - we win and keep winning and literally haven't had a game like Michigan and OU had yesterday in a DECADE.
There are specific things that we "struggle" with and that may pop up and be the keys to a loss down the road. That's totally possible.
- QB pressure without blitzing
- Ability to move the ball through the air when the run game is bottled up
- kicking game
However, those who seem to be hanging off the cliff discuss these issues while negating to discuss the multitude of possible issues the teams we could lose to (which are very few) also have.
- Clemson's offense has been clunkier than ours has this year, their QB is probably a slightly better thrower than Jalen but not as talented a runner and their run game/O-line is not as good as ours
- Stidham has yet to prove he can throw under pressure and their offensive line is still at best above average. We also gashed their same defense and scheme for 500+ yards last season, including 200+ on the ground and 298 through the air.
- Fromm has yet to be tested in a game in which he is forced to win a game through the air and their offensive line is above average but not fantastic. On top of that, they are a pro-style run at you team.
So, it is what it is. We have issues and things that could cost us games. It sucks not to be perfect. But I don't understand spending your entire life freaked the fvck out or mad as fvck about things that haven't even happened yet without even fully considering the future matchup. It doesn't make me mad, but I don't understand why someone would want to act like that.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:02 pm to Commander Data
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What Mond did against our defense is more impressive than what a seasoned Hurts did against their defense. We can and will win a lot of games with Hurts but we won't beat a good team this year like Clemson or Auburn.
You post trash like this then say you never say anything bad about him days later.
Mond was so impressive he threw an INT and had a fumble. So impressive his QBR (29.9!) was lower than Jalen who had a bad game.
You guys are so pathetic you would praise anybody to hate on Hurts. Next you will be talking up Etling and Darmondy.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:09 pm to YStar
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Etling
Would have beat the aggies last night and possibly had better passing stats than Hurts. Yes, Jalen is that bad. If you take away his ground game you completely shut him down. I don't understand how you guys have convinced yourselves that he is a good quarterback. He would be great at Georgia Tech or Navy.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:10 pm to Commander Data
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Would have beat the aggies last night and possibly had better passing stats than Hurts.
Lol
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:12 pm to Commander Data
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Etling
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Would have beat the aggies last night and possibly had better passing stats than Hurts.
Oh for fvck sake. Go take a Xanax.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:12 pm to 1BamaRTR
Yeah, dude is an idiot. I'm not going to entertain that nonsense anymore.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:14 pm to YStar
It’s like this every week with CD, Huddie, uofarolltide, and Karem. Hurts is not perfect, but he has the “it” factor, which goes a long way in college football.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:16 pm to 251_Dreaux
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It’s like this every week with CD, Huddie, uofarolltide, and Karem. Hurts is not perfect, but he has the “it” factor, which goes a long way in college football.
Honestly this board is reaching the tipping point of unreadable.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:23 pm to Commander Data
It's 2017. Being a good quarterback isn't just about putting up passing yards. I know that your simpleton brain can't comprehend that idea, but maybe if you try hard enough it will seep through the jello.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’ve tried not to lose my cool too much with the hurts hate crowd but sometimes I’m left speechless.
AM was 2nd in sacks, it showed
Our OL and WR group had struggles
Our PK had a bad game
Even with all that we won.
Jalen missed a few but hit some nice ones as well. And he ran some really nice runs that help put the game away. The touchdown play where he moved the safety was outstanding. I just don’t get it. The kid works his arse off and produces for this team and gets shite on weekly.
AM was 2nd in sacks, it showed
Our OL and WR group had struggles
Our PK had a bad game
Even with all that we won.
Jalen missed a few but hit some nice ones as well. And he ran some really nice runs that help put the game away. The touchdown play where he moved the safety was outstanding. I just don’t get it. The kid works his arse off and produces for this team and gets shite on weekly.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:47 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Did you notice that the A&M true freshman, also under pressure, avoided the rush but still managed to make some big plays downfield?
You mean the guy that threw a goal line interception, had an ESPN QBR of 27, and lost?
If that's your thing, ok. If you don't mind, I'll just stick with the winner.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:49 pm to 251_Dreaux
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It’s like this every week with CD, Huddie, uofarolltide, and Karem. Hurts is not perfect, but he has the “it” factor, which goes a long way in college football.
More telling, what they're really doing is saying Saban doesn't know what he is doing. At this point, the idea that anyone could still believe that is simply mind-blowing.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 3:54 pm to CrimsonBoz
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CrimsonBoz
Honestly I thought Jalen was pretty underwhelming last night. His progress has not been great this year and I was hoping for more. I also think there is a shot that down the road a better team might bottle us up and I'm not sure we can beat them throwing the ball.
However, that's not new, and I don't really know what the point of saying it every 17 minutes is. There is not a better option that doesn't risk abandoning some of the things we do very well or fracturing the team. So, it is what it is.
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