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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:35 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:35 am to
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The question is, if it's 3-3 against Auburn with 6 minutes left in the 2nd, and Bama has had multiple three and outs, does Saban play Tua?

No. Hurts is without a doubt the guy.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:35 am to
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But Jalen missed some throws


Every single QB ever to play misses throws. Tua missed a throw, and their LBer took it back 90 something yards for a touchdown.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:36 am to
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No. Hurts is without a doubt the guy.


Yea, no doubt.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:36 am to
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I don't understand when people say we needed a balanced offense to beat Clemson last year.


Because a balanced offense would have kept Clemson's defense honest, and we'd have sustained more than 2 drives of more than 5 plays, which at least would have precluded our defense having to play 99 plays. We'd probably have scored more than 3 points for the 2 turnovers our defense forced on Clemson's side of the field.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:36 am to
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Every single QB ever to play misses throws. Tua missed a throw, and their LBer took it back 90 something yards for a touchdown.



Funky, at this point you should know that me pointing out bad throws from Jalen does not in any way mean I am saying he's terrible or I want Tua playing QB.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:37 am to
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Surely you jest. When Tagovailoa is playing, we do have a balanced offense.


We do when Hurts is playing also.



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Furthermore, when receivers are visibly frustrated at the qb, there is a problem. When receivers are working hard to get open and the qb doesn't even give them a look, there is a problem. When the qb can't consistently hit the receivers in stride, there is a problem. When the qb still can't read defenses, there is a problem.


You're full of shite.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:39 am to
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Funky, at this point you should know that me pointing out bad throws from Jalen does not in any way mean I am saying he's terrible or I want Tua playing QB.



i gotcha man, I know that you are one of the more balanced poster on here. Its just so frustrating seeing people talk shite about Hurts when he is having an excellent year.

People think that he had a shitty game on Saturday, when he went 13/21 200 yards, 1 td, against a top passing defense, in one half. I just feel like I am living in a looney bend sometimes.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:39 am to
Nice personal attack, which doesn't offer a single valid point to refute the observation . Why can some of you not reasonably discuss this?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:43 am to
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People think that he had a shitty game on Saturday, when he went 13/21 200 yards, 1 td, against a top passing defense, in one half. I just feel like I am living in a looney bend sometimes.


I don't think he had a shitty game, but I do think it was not one of his better ones (especially the 1st half).

I'm not going to spend all my time worrying about possibly losing a close game in the playoffs because Jalen isn't great, because that would ruin any enjoyment. However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have some of those concerns.

This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:43 am
Posted by Bamadoc
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:45 am to
With tua he is going to get popped with ints because he feels like he can make throws. It come with the territory of a laser armed qb.

Just like Jalen with his running ability, you have that special talent you are going to take off and run. Last yr BECAUSE HE WAS A FR LIKE TUA he ran more and in turned fumbled. He has fixed that problem this yr.

That's why many are saying NEXT YEAR it will be an open competition. Jalen is the rock this yr, cool and steady. Next yr Tua will have valuable experience to challenge. Then let the chips fall where they may
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:46 am to
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That's why many are saying NEXT YEAR it will be an open competition. Jalen is the rock this yr, cool and steady. Next yr Tua will have valuable experience to challenge. Then let the chips fall where they may


Yep
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:49 am to
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I don't think he had a shitty game, but I do think it was not one of his better ones (especially the 1st half).



If he puts up those stats in any game vs a top pass defense, that is a good game in my book. We can point out that he didn't throw our WRs in stride, or whatever, but 13/21 200 yards 1 TD is good in any universe where football is played, no matter how those stats are compiled. His job is to get it to our WRs, and he did that.

And its not like he had a bunch of screen passes that went for a bunch of yards.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:31 am to
I’ll say again did anyone watch Ridley push Juedy? There is obviously an attitude problem. This isn’t because of Jalen btw this is something else. I’ll poke around.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:39 am to
Since you mention it again, I will remind you that I have said for a while now that Ridley is getting frustrated and you've told me that was bullshite.

Do you really have to "poke around" to figure it out? I hope that whoever you poke is more tuned in than with some of your other info.

You can bet, too, that Ridley isn't the only frustrated receiver. Because of his status, though, and the fact Hurts goes to him so often, he can get away with exhibiting that irritation more than other receivers would. Course, you'll tell me I'm wrong again, just like so many other times by now that it turned out later to be so.

Glad you're finally coming around, though, to noticing an obvious problem.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:54 am to
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Since you mention it again, I will remind you that I have said for a while now that Ridley is getting frustrated and you've told me that was bull shite. Do you really have to "poke around" to figure it out? I hope that whoever you poke is more tuned in than with some of your other info. You can bet, too, that Ridley isn't the only frustrated receiver. Because of his status, though, and the fact Hurts goes to him so often, he can get away with exhibiting that irritation more than other receivers would. Course, you'll tell me I'm wrong again, just like so many other times by now that it turned out later to be so. Glad you're finally co


Nothing you said is anything in line with what I am thinking. Again you try to insult within your argument for whatever reason.

Ridley has an attitude problem in general and it’s not rooted with Jalen. If it was he would be solely showing it to him. But, he isn’t he is pushing other players in a huddle. So no you are not right about anything actually and I absolutely do not agree with your statement that Ridley is mad at Jalen. Sorry.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:05 am to
So you don't have any idea why Ridley is frustrated and irritated, but you are certain that it has nothing to do with so many errant passes, or running routes while the qb takes off, or having to adjust to passes rather than catching them in stride, or all the other things that would frustrate any receiver after all this time. Anything except to do with your favorite player, who is forever blameless. Ok. That figures.

I said, and you refuted...

The lack of a consistent passing game will eventually get us beat. Check

If the other qbs don't get a chance to prove themselves, they will transfer. Check

Ridley is visibly frustrated. Check

Tua will gradually get more playing time. Check

There is a problem and it isn't the fault of Ridley or the other receivers. To be checked in all due time.

Looking like a pattern, isn't it Boz.

I would add that I haven't seen pissed off receivers when Tagovailoa is in the game. Think about it.

This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:16 am to
No it’s not looking like a pattern at all actually. Ridley got frustrated because he has an attitude problem and pushed one of his fellow WR’s. I think there is something going on there a little deeper. Tua has received the amount of playing time to expected of a backup who needs reps. Once the game was no longer in question. That’s standard across any board of play. I know you are seeking to be some kind of soothsayer but in reality you are good at 1 thing. Making a bunch of very broad statements and hoping they are right. You are praying we lose a game so you can come on here and puff your chest. It’s getting ridiculous at this point. However, I won’t be giving you the time of day anymore. Enjoy the day.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:21 am to
No Boz. Ridley has been showing signs of frustration for a while now and I have noted it. It's only now that you finally admit it.

I'm no soothsayer. Those things I noted should have been obvious to even a casual unbiased observer. You're the guy that likes to fancy himself the ultimate exalted insider.

I would like never to lose a game. It's why it was so frustrating but fairly easy to call last year, and what I and many others would like to avoid this year.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by Gustave
Member since Nov 2015
3389 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:25 am to
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No Boz. Ridley has been showing signs of frustration for a while now and I have noted it. It's only now that you finally admit it. I'm no soothsayer. Those things I noted should have been obvious to even a casual unbiased observer. You're the guy that likes to fancy himself the ultimate exalted insider. I would like never to lose a game. It's why it was so frustrating, but fairly easy to call, last year.


I wonder how he would act if he didn't get the majority share of the targets. I feel like Stewart did a better job as the leader of the WRs.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:26 am to
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No Boz. Ridley has been showing signs of frustration for a while now and I have noted it. It's only now that you finally admit it.


Link me to where Ridley has shown aggression and pushed another player until now? Sure he shook his head once or twice on a bad throw. That’s football dude, it’s competative and good players want the ball a lot. He needs to be a team player and bring his attitude down because the rest of the team won’t put up with baby crying bullshite. Link me to where I said I was “ exalted ultimate insider” ? Have a good day.
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