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Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:04 pm to ApeDeuce
Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:04 pm to ApeDeuce
Fascinating take.
But my gut tells me Saban wants A Quarterback. He doesn't want two. And if Jalen can navigate through LSU and Auburn and not experience the same difficulties as last year, the he is that guy. However, if Jalen and the offense struggle, Saban puts Tua in.
To date, Tua has always played after big leads were established. The question is, if it's 3-3 against Auburn with 6 minutes left in the 2nd, and Bama has had multiple three and outs, does Saban play Tua?
A lot of people feel that, under that scenario, we don't see Tua at all. I think Saban changes up, pulls Jalen and puts Tua in if we are having an ineffective offense performance during the home stretch. And the moment he does that, that begins the competition.
But my gut tells me Saban wants A Quarterback. He doesn't want two. And if Jalen can navigate through LSU and Auburn and not experience the same difficulties as last year, the he is that guy. However, if Jalen and the offense struggle, Saban puts Tua in.
To date, Tua has always played after big leads were established. The question is, if it's 3-3 against Auburn with 6 minutes left in the 2nd, and Bama has had multiple three and outs, does Saban play Tua?
A lot of people feel that, under that scenario, we don't see Tua at all. I think Saban changes up, pulls Jalen and puts Tua in if we are having an ineffective offense performance during the home stretch. And the moment he does that, that begins the competition.
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Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:08 pm to Funky Tide 8
How many games in the last couple years have we really had to pass in order to win? Clemson? And honestly if we ran the ball more in that game we win. Not to mention Jalen's ability to run has saved us countless times. And he's never cost us a game.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:20 pm to Bamafan4evr12
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How many games in the last couple years have we really had to pass in order to win? Clemson? And honestly if we ran the ball more in that game we win. Not to mention Jalen's ability to run has saved us countless times. And he's never cost us a game.
In my opinion, there are three or four teams we need the be balanced against in order to win.
Oklahoma
Clemson
Ohio State
Georgia
Possibly Penn State and Auburn.
If we are one dimensional against these teams, we could easily lose.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:14 am to River_City_Tider
Did anyone else catch when Ridley pushed Juedy out of the huddle? There is an attitude issue with the WR Corps no doubt about it now.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:24 am to Funky Tide 8
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Only at Alabama can a QB go 13/21 with 200 yards and a TD(should've been two TDs) and the fans feel worried about his passing. In two quarters no less.
Did you not see how many outright ducks Jalen threw on Saturday? EVERY week Ridley is visibly frustrated by Hurts' constant innacuracy, and his ability to adjust to the ball is making Hurts' passing stats look much better than they should, overall. Jalen almost got Ridley hurt too, by throwing him into a defender.
Now, the first drive of the second half Hurts looked worlds better than he did in the first half. I mean, worlds better. So I'm hopeful he can get it together. But he can't keep doing what he has been doing, and expect it not to bite him at some point.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean, the only reason TT comes into the game is because our offense has annihilated people for 2-3 quarters before that. And the offense certainly doesn't all of a sudden take a giant leap forward statistically or moving the ball-wise when Tua comes in.
Yeah, but the playcalling, and route trees visibly change when Tua is in there. Tue does seem to get to his second/third read faster than Hurts, as well.
At least, before the last 6 minutes of the game. Then its just Brian Robinson and Ronnie Clark time.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:33 am to CrimsonBoz
What did that mean in ur opinion?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 7:44 am to paul02085
Ridley has been obviously frustrated lately and it's understandabe imo. edit: And he's the guy most balls are thrown to. Imagine how the other receivers feel.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:14 am to VaBamaMan
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Did you not see how many outright ducks Jalen threw on Saturday?
I was at the game, and I just rewatched it, and I did not see any outright ducks. If you can link me to an example, that'd be great.
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EVERY week Ridley is visibly frustrated by Hurts' constant innacuracy,
What proof do you have of this? You have none.
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and his ability to adjust to the ball is making Hurts' passing stats look much better than they should, overall. Jalen almost got Ridley hurt too, by throwing him into a defender.
Hurts job is to throw the ball to where the WR can catch it. I don't see the problem.
The fact is, Hurts went 13/21 200 yards, 1 TD in basically one half of football, against a top ten pass defense in the nation. I'd venture to say that his performance was excellent.
Upon my re-watch this morning, I am even more mind-blown that people are bitching about his play. We have to have the most spoiled fans perhaps of any team in any sport in the nation.
And if any of our WRs feel "slighted" for lack of targets, or whatever he hell yall are trying to imply, then they should go sit their asses on the bench, and think about what it means to be apart of a TEAM. A team that is undefeated, and kicking everyone's arse.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:17 am to River_City_Tider
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In my opinion, there are three or four teams we need the be balanced against in order to win.
Oklahoma
We would run until we decided we didn't want to run anymore against Oklahoma.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:18 am to Funky Tide 8
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I did not see any outright ducks
He threw 2 or 3 really bad balls to Calvin. The quick pass to the left, the ball Calvin made a great catch on 3rd down just off the top of my head.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:19 am to Funky Tide 8
Ridley is getting visibly frustrated and he needs to chill. He’s getting more balls and catches than anyone. He’s also dropped several balls this year including a TD or two. He can go back to the huddle and tell Jalen something but throwing his hands up like a toddler isn’t helping anything and it’s not setting a good example for our young receivers. Just do your job and leave the theatrics a home. Julio would have killed to have as many balls come his way and he never did anything but play hard and do his job every play.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:22 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:23 am to Funky Tide 8
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Upon my re-watch this morning, I am even more mind-blown that people are bitching about his performance. We have the most spoiled fans perhaps of any team in any sport in the nation.
I think you have to put it in context. Most years, you probably wouldn't hear any UA fans complaining about Hurts. We're in the middle, though, or perhaps near the end of an unprecedented run, and with the best players in college football, and I think most fans are like me and hope that we can take advantage of this, because none of us, even the young fans, are likely to ever witness this again. So some of us feel like we are winning in spite of the lack of a balanced offense, and we think that with a balanced offense, we'd have won another title last year. Moreover, we are concerned that the lack of a balanced offense will again cost us another title, so we're missing out on what could have been, in spite of the best players assembled on one team in college football. Meanwhile, we have a qb on the bench that has shown he can run this offense, and run it well, and be a more consistent passer, and make good decisions, check down to receivers. A balanced offense.
It isn't that Jalen Hurts is a bad qb. He's a good qb. Some of us just want an excellent qb and we feel like we have that guy, and don't want him to transfer out.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:24 am to SummerOfGeorge
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He threw 2 or 3 really bad balls to Calvin. The quick pass to the left, the ball Calvin made a great catch on 3rd down just off the top of my head.
Was it the pass when their defensive end nearly blew the play up, and Jalen had to basically throw around him?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:27 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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in spite of the lack of a balanced offense,
This is fake news.
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we'd have won another title last year.
If we don't completely stop running the football in the second half, we win another title last year. Atlanta is seeing Sark's magic firsthand this year.
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It isn't that Jalen Hurts is a bad qb. He's a good qb. Some of us just want an excellent qb and we feel like we have that guy, and don't want him to transfer out.
Well the "excellent QB" you speak of didn't make any throws on Saturday that Jalen didn't already make in the first half, not to mention he threw a motherfricking PICK SIX in the redzone, after checking down to Najee that whole drive.
I love Tua, and I think that he will be really good, but this fluffing of him while unfairly criticizing Hurts when Hurts has been playing really well is MINDBLOWING.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:28 am to tider04
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Ridley is getting visibly frustrated
See, I've been saying this for weeks, and was told I was wrong. I see, though, that even the most vocal guy telling me that has decided there is, in fact, a problem.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:31 am to Funky Tide 8
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in spite of the lack of a balanced offense,
This is fake news.
Surely you jest. When Tagovailoa is playing, we do have a balanced offense. Not so much the rest of the time.
Furthermore, when receivers are visibly frustrated at the qb, there is a problem. When receivers are working hard to get open and the qb doesn't even give them a look, there is a problem. When the qb can't consistently hit the receivers in stride, there is a problem. When the qb still can't read defenses, there is a problem.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:33 am to Huddie Leadbetter
I don't understand when people say we needed a balanced offense to beat Clemson last year. We lost because we went away from the run when Bo went down despite having a 1,000 yard back as his replacement. (That and Watson was unreal) If anything, we should have passed less in that game.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:33 am to Funky Tide 8
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Was it the pass when their defensive end nearly blew the play up, and Jalen had to basically throw around him?
- 3rd and 6 stop route throw on the first drive was not good and Ridley made a great catch
- The throw to Ridley from the 1 yard line on a stop route with 1 guy and green grass in front of him was not a good throw. At the very least the timing was completely off.
- The quick throw to Ridley at the 6:37 mark, there was an end there but Jalen didn't adjust anything, he just threw it into the dirt (that's when Ridley threw his hands up)
- Then there was also a missed deep throw
Now, of course Ridley dropped a ball in the end zone and the theatrics need to stop. That shite isn't acceptable. But Jalen missed some throws. It is what it is. That's who he is and I still think he's the best option at QB, but he's a work in progress throwing the football. As long as we all don't act like idiots (which has been better lately) I don't really mind discussing it every week, but it's not really changing.
Jalen is a better passer and better at reading defenses this year than last year. There is no question. He's still not great at it, though. And that may be ok. He's still very good as a total package.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 8:35 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 8:34 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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When receivers are visibly frustrated at the qb, there is a problem.
Dude, this is made up bullshite by posters on this board. There is literally no real proof whatsoever of this conjecture. Players get frustrated when they don't make every single play. They are competitors. That hardly means that they are pissed at Hurts. And like I said, if they are, then they need serious attitude adjustments.
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When the qb can't consistently hit the receivers in stride, there is a problem. When the qb still can't read defenses, there is a problem.
Hurts has done this all season long. You are seeing what you want to see. You are spoiled. You are one of those people that always think that the grass is greener on the other side.
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