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re: Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:49 pm to TideWarrior
Posted on 9/10/14 at 4:49 pm to TideWarrior
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Also people need to realize the University does not run the concessions
True, but they have some control over what goes into the contract with the company that runs the concessions. They could absolutely give some input on prices on certain items. If company A doesn't want to meet that, a stadium that large would have any number of other companies willing to do that.
Selling a bottle of water for $4.50 on a 90+ degree day with the heat index of near 100 is pure greed, plain and simple.
Not that it is the least bit surprising. They only thing the athletic department see when they look at us fans is our wallets and how to extract what we have in our wallets from them.
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:19 pm to sarc
IMO, this is one more strike against Bill Battle. I become less and less impressed with Battle all the time, and frankly, I'm about ready for a change. Personally, I really couldn't care less what a bottle of water costs. If I want water, I'll drink from a fountain. If I buy a drink, I'm buying a soda. But we're not talking about prices of soda or peanuts or hot dogs. We're talking about water, and $4.50 for a bottle is fricking obscene. Bama has to charge that because they have to make a certain profit? bullshite. We have over 100,000 in the stadium, yet we have to charge double what the boogs do? The last time I checked, the last time there were 100,000 people in Jordan-Hare was never.
I don't really care if it meets the technical definition of price gouging. It's fricking bullshite. Need a few hundred people to start calling the president's office and chewing people out.
I don't really care if it meets the technical definition of price gouging. It's fricking bullshite. Need a few hundred people to start calling the president's office and chewing people out.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:22 pm to The Spleen
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Not that it is the least bit surprising. They only thing the athletic department see when they look at us fans is our wallets and how to extract what we have in our wallets from them.
Amen to that.
Three strikes on Battle, IMO...
1. Failure to address the basketball situation.
2. Absurd ticket price increases.
3. This fricking bullshite.
I'm ready for him to go. Or what...are we going to wait until the next, even worse debacle?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 5:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
at least during hot weather games they should make a concession like a&m did for the bama game last year and allow fans to bring in up to a gallon of water. that was a life saver last year.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 6:37 pm to sarc
The prices have always been high. Contracted vendors have changed at least once over the last few years, but it's still basically the same thing. Of the gross price ($4.50 for the water), 9% goes to sales tax, 10% goes to volunteer organization, ~10% goes to contractor + food costs (~10 - 20%) and the rest (>50%) goes to the University.
The volunteer groups that man the concession stands work for less than minimum wage. The contractor makes a fair amount, but they have a lot of leg work to do to prepare each concession stand with inventories and maintenance of equipment. The University essentially does nothing and makes the lion's share of profit.
The volunteer groups that man the concession stands work for less than minimum wage. The contractor makes a fair amount, but they have a lot of leg work to do to prepare each concession stand with inventories and maintenance of equipment. The University essentially does nothing and makes the lion's share of profit.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:00 pm to chattabama
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It is irresponsible for the university to not allow empty containers for water especially during September. If something serious were to happen, such as a heat stroke, I wonder if the university could be found liable.
That's a pretty dumb supposition. The university doesn't force anyone to attend a game.
And honestly, if you don't have $4.50 to bring with you to the game then you're too poor to have bought the ticket and should be saving money for food instead.
Oh, and the water fountains are free, btw.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:10 pm to Evolved Simian
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That's a pretty dumb supposition. The university doesn't force anyone to attend a game.
True, but then you have Saban saying "play for 60, stay for 60". If the athletic department truly wants people to stay in their seats then they need to be more flexible with their policies. They should want people to stay. It's a better recruiting atmosphere when the fans show up.
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And honestly, if you don't have $4.50 to bring with you to the game then you're too poor to have bought the ticket and should be saving money for food instead.
Tell that to the ten year old I saw being taken away on a stretcher.
I'm giving the university $5,000+ this semester. I think I deserve some cheap water.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:12 pm to Evolved Simian
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Oh, and the water fountains are free, btw.
Didn't realize I could take the water fountain back to my seat.
Were you there on Saturday? Just wondering if you suffered through it, or are you judging from your air-conditioned living room?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:21 pm to Evolved Simian
It's not like I'm going to feel the $9 I spent on 2 bottles of water, but it's the principle. I saw the prices and thought "this is ridiculous" and stepped right up and bought them anyway because $9 is a hell of a lot cheaper than a trip to the ER
And there are a lot of students at the game who probably do feel that $4.50
As for the water fountains, I eventually found them at Coleman but still haven't found them at BDS
And there are a lot of students at the game who probably do feel that $4.50
As for the water fountains, I eventually found them at Coleman but still haven't found them at BDS
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:22 pm to East Coast Band
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The volunteer groups that man the concession stands work for less than minimum wage.
I don't think you understand how this works.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:48 pm to chattabama
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Didn't realize I could take the water fountain back to my seat.
Were you there on Saturday? Just wondering if you suffered through it, or are you judging from your air-conditioned living room?
I was there and suffered through it in N3. I bought one bottle of water and refilled it multiple times from the water fountain.
For the record, I have two kids enrolled currently, but I am fully aware that no matter how much money I send to UA, I still have to pay for concessions.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:55 pm to sarc
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As for the water fountains, I eventually found them at Coleman but still haven't found them at BDS
There are a number of them. I hit 3 different ones. One close to the tunnel, another a little further away in the other direction because of the length of the line, and a third on the field level as I walked the concourse during halftime trying to get relief from the heat.
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And there are a lot of students at the game who probably do feel that $4.50
I agree with this. They should probably offer discounted student concessions. They discount student tickets, after all.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:05 pm to Evolved Simian
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For the record, I have two kids enrolled currently, but I am fully aware that no matter how much money I send to UA, I still have to pay for concessions.
Did I say I wanted it free? No. Read my post again. It said cheap i.e. reasonable. I don't care if they charge an arm and a leg for nachos or other food items. It's another thing entirely charging that much for a small bottle of water when it's over 90 degrees outside and there are several children present. It's irresponsible. The last thing I want to see is my university being dragged through an ugly lawsuit because of their policies. I'm afraid it could happen however.
I dont think it is unreasonable to ask the university to be fair. If the Aubs can charge less and still make enough for their athletic budget, why can't we? I think $2.50 is fair while still making a profit. Or if they are so worried about making a profit, why can't they allow people to bring in one bottle of water for any day game in September only? Simple solution.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:31 pm to chattabama
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It's irresponsible.
You're overreacting. There is free water all throughout the stadium, even if it isn't bottled, and no one is forced to sit in the sun. Everyone is free to walk into the cool shade of the concourse, soak their face, head and shirt in the bathroom (I saw hundreds do this) and drink unlimited amounts of free water from the fountains. There were thousands more who just decided to watch the TV's in the shelter of the concourse.
If you saw a ten year old carted out on a gurney, that is the fault of stupid parents who left him in the sun, and honestly, I think they should be prosecuted for endangerment. Is Walmart responsible when a parent leaves a kid in a sweltering car to die in it's parking lot? The university holds zero liability for that, no matter how much you seem to want them to.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:41 pm to Evolved Simian
I've been sitting in the West upper deck since 1992 and I still don't know where the water fountains are.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:51 pm to Evolved Simian
It's not even about the heat for me, it's the principle. $4.50 for a bottle of water is ridiculous. The ridiculousness of it is just magnified by the conditions of last week
I'm glad there are water fountains all over the place where you sit. I've been sitting in EE for 3 years and have yet to see a water fountain. If it's anything like in Coleman, they're probably hidden in some little conclave out of view.
I'm glad there are water fountains all over the place where you sit. I've been sitting in EE for 3 years and have yet to see a water fountain. If it's anything like in Coleman, they're probably hidden in some little conclave out of view.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:59 pm to Evolved Simian
The Wal-Mart example is a pretty poor one unless they have a policy preventing children from entering the premises. Sure, there are drinking fountains in some places, though I'm with sarc and couldn't find one near where I was sitting. Plus you aren't there to spend your whole time in the concourse getting a sip of water. Do you really think the athletic department will go under if they don't get their extra two bucks?
And yes, I did see someone around the age of ten on a gurnee while I was waiting 30 minutes in a concession stand line for my gold water. I'm not saying the parents are blameless, but I don't think the athletic department is either. Twenty-six people went to the hospital. Do you see how serious that is?
Again, if Auburn can act responsibly, why can't we?
And yes, I did see someone around the age of ten on a gurnee while I was waiting 30 minutes in a concession stand line for my gold water. I'm not saying the parents are blameless, but I don't think the athletic department is either. Twenty-six people went to the hospital. Do you see how serious that is?
Again, if Auburn can act responsibly, why can't we?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:04 pm to chattabama
They need to allow people to bring an empty, clear bottle into the stadium and install those water bottle refilling stations.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:08 pm to sarc
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It's not even about the heat for me, it's the principle. $4.50 for a bottle of water is ridiculous. The ridiculousness of it is just magnified by the conditions of last week
I agree about the price. It's too much if you ask me, but it's what you pay at most sporting events. UA has been using Centerplate for six seasons now. High pricing is nothing new there.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:22 pm to Evolved Simian
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High pricing is nothing new there
It's nothing new, but it still isn't right. I've been to most SEC stadiums and we easily have one of the highest concession prices.
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