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re: Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:26 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:26 pm to Evolved Simian
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Evolved Simian
Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS
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It's irresponsible.
You're overreacting. There is free water all throughout the stadium, even if it isn't bottled, and no one is forced to sit in the sun. Everyone is free to walk into the cool shade of the concourse, soak their face, head and shirt in the bathroom (I saw hundreds do this) and drink unlimited amounts of free water from the fountains. There were thousands more who just decided to watch the TV's in the shelter of the concourse.
If you saw a ten year old carted out on a gurney, that is the fault of stupid parents who left him in the sun, and honestly, I think they should be prosecuted for endangerment. Is Walmart responsible when a parent leaves a kid in a sweltering car to die in it's parking lot? The university holds zero liability for that, no matter how much you seem to want them to.
Maybe he missed the point, but so did you. This isn't merely about little kids in sweltering heat, or whether or not you can walk to the concourse. It's about fricking public relations, and Bill Battle absolutely shite the bed.
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:51 pm to chattabama
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The Wal-Mart example is a pretty poor one unless they have a policy preventing children from entering the premises.
No. It's identical, because UA doesn't have a policy preventing you from leaving the premises. People control whether or not they expose themselves and their children to deadly conditions, and UA provides dozens of medics all over the stadium in case they're just that stupid. They were giving out ice packs and water to pretty much anyone who complained of heat related issues.
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couldn't find one near where I was sitting.
I also saw dozens of people refilling them in the sinks, and I know there are a couple of hundred of those in the upper deck.
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Plus you aren't there to spend your whole time in the concourse getting a sip of water.
So, you are of the belief that you should risk a child's life because you came to watch football? C'mon. Even as a student you should be more mature than that.
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I don't think the athletic department is (blameless) either.
Unless you have a specific example of negligence, you're dead wrong on that one. Your lawyer will chuckle as he takes your check and your case is immediately dismissed.
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if Auburn can act responsibly, why can't we?
This is what is wrong with society today. Everybody wants someone else to be responsible for their own reckless behavior. "I'm going to do this even though I'm not prepared and it's very dangerous. It's your job to protect me from myself, and if I hurt myself due to my own ignorance, YOU are responsible for paying me."
Somehow UA is irresponsible for giving you access to unlimited free water, allowing you to leave dangerous conditions for safe ones, and providing free medical care on site should you choose to take the dangerous option? I will say it one more time. If someone was stupid enough to spend so much money on a ticket that they can't afford to protect themselves, then their priorities are wrong. People shouldn't be spending their welfare money on football tickets.
Look, if you want to bitch about the price of water, just bitch about it like sarc did. But don't try to preach to the rest of us how it is our responsibility to protect you if you insist on doing something stupid. ESPECIALLY how someone else should be liable if you decide to stand in the sun because water is $2 cheaper 150 miles away.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:00 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Maybe he missed the point, but so did you. This isn't merely about little kids in sweltering heat, or whether or not you can walk to the concourse. It's about fricking public relations, and Bill Battle absolutely shite the bed.
I'm not a fan of what Battle has done so far, but I don't see what this has to do with him. Mal Moore signed the contract with Centerplate.
This is the seventh season with them. Prices have been at this level for a while.
Centerplate was brought in by Mal as a premium provider of concessions. They haven't delivered. To my knowledge there is nothing unique in the lower bowl. Hotdog, nachos, popcorn. And I had to wait almost the entire halftime for them to cook some hotdogs that they would put all the toppings on. Do they even still have the contract with Popeye's in the south end zone?
If you want cheap concessions, you should email Battle and tell him to break the contract with Centerplate and work with Costco. $1.50 hotdog and drink all day long.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:00 pm to Evolved Simian
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No. It's identical, because UA doesn't have a policy preventing you from leaving the premises
It sort of does. If I leave BDS to get a bottled water at the gas station I have forfeited my ticket. Captive audience.
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and UA provides dozens of medics all over the stadium in case they're just that stupid. They were giving out ice packs and water to pretty much anyone who complained of heat related issues.
That was so nice of them. I am so glad that my university is progressive in dealing with these issues.
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I also saw dozens of people refilling them in the sinks, and I know there are a couple of hundred of those in the upper deck.
Yeah, that is sanitary. I am going to fill up my water bottle where some guy who just touched his a-hole is washing his hands. Your argument is losing ground by the minute.
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So, you are of the belief that you should risk a child's life because you came to watch football? C'mon. Even as a student you should be more mature than that.
I said I wasn't there to take sips of water from the drinking fountain. By the time I got back to my seat I'd burn off what I just drank.
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Unless you have a specific example of negligence, you're dead wrong on that one. Your lawyer will chuckle as he takes your check and your case is immediately dismissed.
It's about corporate responsibility. In this day and age of frivolous lawsuits, you're damn right someone could sue the university for damages related to heat stroke.
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Look, if you want to bitch about the price of water, just bitch about it like sarc did. But don't try to preach to the rest of us how it is our responsibility to protect you if you insist on doing something stupid. ESPECIALLY how someone else should be liable if you decide to stand in the sun because water is $2 cheaper 150 miles away
Didn't realize that you owned the concessions stand. Congrats on all the money you made last week
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:04 pm to Evolved Simian
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I'm not a fan of what Battle has done so far, but I don't see what this has to do with him. Mal Moore signed the contract with Centerplate.
That may be true, but I doubt that Centerplate can stop Battle from letting fans bring an empty water bottle into the stadium.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:10 pm to chattabama
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Yeah, that is sanitary. I am going to fill up my water bottle where some guy who just touched his a-hole is washing his hands. Your argument is losing ground by the minute.
Have you ever been inside a concession stand or the kitchen of a restaurant?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:12 pm to chattabama
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It's about corporate responsibility. In this day and age of frivolous lawsuits, you're damn right someone could sue the university for damages related to heat stroke.
And yeah, it might be frivolous, and yeah, they might not win...but that's not the point. Again, this is about public relations, and Bill Battle is proving to be really inept in that department.
I remember when Turner Field first opened. You couldn't bring ANYTHING into the stadium. Gate workers even confiscated baby formula from mothers. So what did the Braves do? They started letting fans bring in their own food and drinks...immediately, concessions contract be damned...and the stadium was barely halfway through its first season. Ted Turner got it. Battle doesn't
If Bill Battle actually would grow a set, he could fix this.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:12 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The volunteer groups that man the concession stands work for less than minimum wage.
I don't think you understand how this works.
Uh, I know how it works.
Do I need to put "the equivalent to" to make it better?
A typical concession stand can have about 20 workers for an average of 4 + hours each, while the group can earn much less than $1000.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And yeah, it might be frivolous, and yeah, they might not win...but that's not the point. Again, this is about public relations, and Bill Battle is proving to be really inept in that department.
I remember when Turner Field first opened. You couldn't bring ANYTHING into the stadium. Gate workers even confiscated baby formula from mothers. So what did the Braves do? They started letting fans bring in their own food and drinks...concessions contract be damned.
If Bill Battle actually would grow a set, he could fix this.
All of this. You summarized what I've been getting at in all of my posts.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:20 pm to chattabama
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Captive audience.
Nope. Not by any definition. You are free to go down to Auburn and save $2 or even go to Whole Foods and buy a $6 bottle of imported water if you wish.
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I am so glad that my university is progressive in dealing with these issues.
You are the one who inferred irresponsibility.
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I am going to fill up my water bottle where some guy who just touched his a-hole is washing his hands.
You have made it abundantly clear that they should discount bottled water for you, so I didn't expect that you would choose this option, although many others did. And, for the record, if you touch your a-hole while wiping, you're doing it wrong.
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It's about corporate responsibility. In this day and age of frivolous lawsuits, you're damn right someone could sue the university for damages related to heat stroke.
Read my original statement. You have no chance.
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Congrats on all the money you made last week
Thanks, but I was just thoughtful enough to go to the ATM on the way to Tuscaloosa. Removes all those "what if" moments when I'm thinking about how I could have saved $2 on water if I'd just gone to the Auburn game instead.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:27 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And yeah, it might be frivolous, and yeah, they might not win...but that's not the point. Again, this is about public relations, and Bill Battle is proving to be really inept in that department.
I remember when Turner Field first opened. You couldn't bring ANYTHING into the stadium. Gate workers even confiscated baby formula from mothers. So what did the Braves do? They started letting fans bring in their own food and drinks...immediately, concessions contract be damned...and the stadium was barely halfway through its first season. Ted Turner got it. Battle doesn't
If Bill Battle actually would grow a set, he could fix this.
Serious question. At what point were you ever allowed to bring concessions in to BDS? Other than, of course, the minis in your pocket...
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:33 pm to Evolved Simian
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Evolved Simian
Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS
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And yeah, it might be frivolous, and yeah, they might not win...but that's not the point. Again, this is about public relations, and Bill Battle is proving to be really inept in that department.
I remember when Turner Field first opened. You couldn't bring ANYTHING into the stadium. Gate workers even confiscated baby formula from mothers. So what did the Braves do? They started letting fans bring in their own food and drinks...immediately, concessions contract be damned...and the stadium was barely halfway through its first season. Ted Turner got it. Battle doesn't
If Bill Battle actually would grow a set, he could fix this.
Serious question. At what point were you ever allowed to bring concessions in to BDS? Other than, of course, the minis in your pocket...
Serious answer. You're still missing the fricking point. The point is that when the Braves faced a public relations nightmare, they fixed it promptly.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:35 pm to Evolved Simian
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t what point were you ever allowed to bring concessions in to BDS?
What does the past have to do with now? It is possible to make improvements.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:37 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You're still missing the fricking point.
What fricking public relations nightmare?
Where can I find some national media outrage because bottled water isn't fricking free?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:39 pm to pvilleguru
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What does the past have to do with now? It is possible to make improvements.
Because all the Braves did was go back to what they did a few months before.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:40 pm to Evolved Simian
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Because all the Braves did was go back to what they did a few months before.
They still realized they made a mistake and did something to fix it.
It just so happens that our mistakes have lasted a lot longer than a few months.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:48 pm to pvilleguru
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pvilleguru
Crimson White addresses price gouging in BDS
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Because all the Braves did was go back to what they did a few months before.
They still realized they made a mistake and did something to fix it.
It just so happens that our mistakes have lasted a lot longer than a few months.
You and I are wasting our time. Some people just can't get the point even when you explain it to them like they're a fricking third grader.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:54 pm to Evolved Simian
I'm no law expert, but I'm not so sure such a lawsuit would be fruitless. We all remember the McD's coffee lawsuit. The plaintiff was awarded a large punitive amount (though it was later reduced) because they were able to show that the large corporation was acutely aware of the potential danger but chose to just keep raking in the money rather than address it. This despite the fact that the plaintiff was largely responsible for the damage done to herself. That's not so different from the hypothetical case against the university that chatta is talking about. Though admittedly tort reform and protections afforded public universities might lead to a different result in this instance.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:56 pm to BamaGradinTn
You're wasting your time because you're a fricking moron.
There is no "public relations nightmare" outside of your head, dumbass.
ETA - when you finally figure out what the real issue is, please feel free to rejoin the conversation.
There is no "public relations nightmare" outside of your head, dumbass.
ETA - when you finally figure out what the real issue is, please feel free to rejoin the conversation.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:09 pm to Evolved Simian
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when you finally figure out what the real issue is
You mean besides our money hungry university?
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