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re: Can we all agree to something about the QB situation?
Posted on 2/3/17 at 10:55 am to Cobrasize
Posted on 2/3/17 at 10:55 am to Cobrasize
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Everyone needs to prepare themselves for the Macsiah.
Like the last qb we took from bolles, 20 years ago, should be a stellar holder for the kicker. Finishes up playing baseball at JU.
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Posted on 2/3/17 at 12:23 pm to BigBird09
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The Alabama fan base has an unhealthy obsession with the backup QB.
Yep, the backup QB at Bama has usually been one of the most popular players among fans since the Bear called it quits...
Posted on 2/3/17 at 1:13 pm to OldPete
Back-ups don't have a chance to really blow a throw or cause a game losing play... YEA!!!!! But I will really be interested in seeing these three play in Spring Game. (especially since Mac will be coming in early now that his HS got their act together). Having them all work thru the 'on your own 7-7' drills and getting thru spring drills should give everyone a bit more to worry about or to complain about which QB should be starting.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 1:22 pm to RollTide66
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But I will really be interested in seeing these three play in Spring Game. (especially since Mac will be coming in early now that his HS got their act together). Having them all work thru the 'on your own 7-7' drills and getting thru spring drills should give everyone a bit more to worry about or to complain about which QB should be starting.
Yeah, I'm lookin' forward to the Spring practice reports. While I think Hurts will improve and be the starter, I'm not totally counting out Tua...heck, I didn't think Hurts would be the starter this past year. In high school as a sophomore, Tua unseated a senior who was the all-State QB from the year before, so he's definitely not afraid of competition...different levels of competition but still impressive.
Either way, I think the competition will be good for all 3...would be nice if we could redshirt one of the QBs but, with our lack of depth, might not be viable...
Posted on 2/3/17 at 1:38 pm to OldPete
I wouldn't count out Jones either. 3 man race with Jalen having a head start.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:44 pm to Commander Data
Yeah, if we learned anything from last offseason, never count anyone out from winning the QB race.
If Tua looks like Deshaun Watson out there, turn him loose!
I mean shite, eventually we have to get a QB who's first round material right?
If Tua looks like Deshaun Watson out there, turn him loose!
I mean shite, eventually we have to get a QB who's first round material right?
Posted on 2/3/17 at 2:58 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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He doesn't trust his eyes yet and played timid in the passing game because of it. I don't think Jalen threw a receiver open all season. He needed to see that the guy was open before he turned it loose
That is a really good point. I never saw it from that perspective. I really was bummed out to not ever see his passing game develop to a REAL passer. I never played, so my experience tearing the game down on a "mechanics" level is zilch... but that really helped me gain some good perspective on Jalen's potential.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 3:01 pm to m2pro
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That is a really good point. I never saw it from that perspective. I really was bummed out to not ever see his passing game develop to a REAL passer. I never played, so my experience tearing the game down on a "mechanics" level is zilch... but that really helped me gain some good perspective on Jalen's potential.
And that is true with almost every true freshman in the history of college football. Of all the things that might improve, I can almost guarantee that changes next year. Will he be more accurate with his mechanics and throwing the football? I don't know. But a full offseason in the film room and working routes with guys and working through the route tree.......that's the kind of stuff true freshman just don't figure out until they get a year or two.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:24 pm to Triple Daves
Agree we F'ed up letting Barnett go. God this offense was Shula painful to watch.
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:34 pm to nc14
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Agree we F'ed up letting Barnett go. God this offense was Shula painful to watch.
It was either Barnett, or Hurts. I'm personally glad they chose Hurts, but ya never know...
So far, we've yet to win a national title with a dual-threat guy lacking in the throwing dept
Posted on 2/3/17 at 7:45 pm to uofarolltide
The "dual" threat wasn't there with the best WR corp in CFB.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 8:14 am to uofarolltide
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So far, we've yet to win a national title with a dual-threat guy lacking in the throwing dept
Blake Sims breaks the passing yards record, but lacks in the throwing department? Anyone thinking Coker or McElroy were better passers for us are high on something. Sims was not the problem on that team.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:07 am to BigBird09
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Blake Sims breaks the passing yards record, but lacks in the throwing department?
While AJ has been the best overall passer of the Saban era, Sims threw the best deep ball of any Bama QB I can remember...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:16 am to nc14
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Agree we F'ed up letting Barnett go.
You may be right, but it's yet to be determined...have to wait and see how he does at ASU. If he balls out, yeah...but if he proves to be a turnover machine like he was alleged to be in practice, then maybe not. He may have done well to transfer to the PAC-12...other than Washington last year, they didn't play much defense out west...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:28 am to OldPete
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You may be right, but it's yet to be determined...have to wait and see how he does at ASU. If he balls out, yeah...but if he proves to be a turnover machine like he was alleged to be in practice, then maybe not.
Most of the nearly 2 years Barnett was here there were glowing reports of how he was going to be an awesome quarterback. Any player can have a few bad practices.
Interesting to me that we heard about Barnett's turnovers in those couple of practices, yet it was Hurts, not Barnett, that turned the ball over in the first game, and continued to turn the ball over during the season. What was it, like 9 interceptions and about the same in fumbles lost? That's a lot of turnovers.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:43 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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What was it, like 9 interceptions and about the same in fumbles lost? That's a lot of turnovers.
Coker had 8 INTs and Sims had 10, so that's about par...not sure 'bout fumbles...
And, if the reports are to be believed, Barnett's turnover issues were more than a couple of practices...maybe he would've been fine, but neither you nor I know better than the coaches who made the decision...Hurts was named the starter for a reason...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:49 am to BigBird09
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Blake Sims breaks the passing yards record, but lacks in the throwing department? Anyone thinking Coker or McElroy were better passers for us are high on something. Sims was not the problem on that team.
Sims had a terrible game vs Ohio Skate and so did Kiffin.
Posted on 2/4/17 at 9:51 am to OldPete
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neither you nor I know better than the coaches who made the decision
And the reports, from some, in the pre season was that the depth chart for the first game would be Bateman, Hurts, and Barnett, but when that first game kicked off, the coaches made the decision to start Barnett. I said after he transferred that it was probably for the best, so that there would be no chance of a divided team. In retrospect, I'm not so sure, after all, that it was for the best.
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:18 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Sims had a terrible game vs Ohio Skate and so did Kiffin.
I agree 'bout Kiffin...Sims had an off day, maybe even bad, but terrible? He had 3 INTs while he accounted for 3 TDs...and one of his INTs was the Hail Mary at the end of the game. His completion percentage was respectable at over 60% as were his passing yards (237). The pick 6 he threw that game was terrible, but not his overall play...Kiffin's play calling and our D had just as much, if not more, blame for that loss as Sims...as with the last game with Clemson, that was a team loss...
Look at Jay Barker's stats in the '92 championship game, now that was terrible...
Posted on 2/4/17 at 1:38 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Sims had a terrible game vs Ohio Skate and so did Kiffin
I wouldn't say terrible, just one really bad play (the pick six), and he still wasn't the reason we lost that game. Elliott ran for 230 yards on just 20 attempts and their offense scored 35 points with a replacement QB.
Definitely not the best game from Sims, but regardless one off game does not make you a bad passer. He was terrific that season.
For some perspective: Greg Mcelroy threw for 58 yards in the championship game.
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