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Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:16 pm to tideohio
quote:Enjoy playing football. That’s the only advice I would give him.
Advice for J. Sayin
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:18 pm to hwyman108
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How the frick do you know what he said to any recruit?
I have actually experienced being recruited?
This level of cope is just weird. Even Saban denied his retirement rumors and everyone on here would mock the idea. We all thought he would go for another 2 or 3 years and he wasn't going into homes telling parents he may not be around in a couple of weeks.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:19 pm to narddogg81
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all I can say is we need a QB who's a good decision maker, and leaving a band offense that's going to be run by deboer and grub to go play in one led by Bill o Buttchin is rock solid proof that Sayin isn't a good decision maker. I'm just glad he and downs didn't go somewhere they were gonna do us some damage
Couldn't agree more. People are getting all twisted up about a dude that didn't throw for 2500 yards as a Senior qb in CA beach town football. Austin Mack threw for 3500 yards as a Jr. And why? Because he won some qb competition throwing passes defended by air.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:52 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Elite 11 began in 1999. Here's a list of the winners
1999
Brock Berlin
2000
Brodie Croyle
2001
Ben Olsen
2002
Kyle Wright
2003
Rhett Bomar/Matt Tuiasosopo
2004
Mark Sanchez
2005
Matt Stafford
2006
John Brantley
2007
Blaine Gabbert
2008
Aaron Murray
2009
Jake Heaps
2010
Jeff Driskel
2011
Neal Burcham/Tanner Mangum
2012
Asiantii Woulard
2013
Sean White
2014
Blake Barnett
2015
Shea Patterson
2016
Tua
2017
Justin Fields
2018
Spencer Rattler
2019
CJ Stroud
2020
Caleb Williams
2021
Cade Klubnik
2022
Jackson Arnold
2023
Julian Sayin
Not one natty as a starter amongst any of the winners.
Compared to some of the qbs that won natties or the Heisman that didn't win but competed:
Jameis
Sunshine
DeShawn
Tebow
Leinart
Vince Young
Chris Leak
Kyler Murray
Jayden Daniels
BY
JJ McCarthy
AJ
1999
Brock Berlin
2000
Brodie Croyle
2001
Ben Olsen
2002
Kyle Wright
2003
Rhett Bomar/Matt Tuiasosopo
2004
Mark Sanchez
2005
Matt Stafford
2006
John Brantley
2007
Blaine Gabbert
2008
Aaron Murray
2009
Jake Heaps
2010
Jeff Driskel
2011
Neal Burcham/Tanner Mangum
2012
Asiantii Woulard
2013
Sean White
2014
Blake Barnett
2015
Shea Patterson
2016
Tua
2017
Justin Fields
2018
Spencer Rattler
2019
CJ Stroud
2020
Caleb Williams
2021
Cade Klubnik
2022
Jackson Arnold
2023
Julian Sayin
Not one natty as a starter amongst any of the winners.
Compared to some of the qbs that won natties or the Heisman that didn't win but competed:
Jameis
Sunshine
DeShawn
Tebow
Leinart
Vince Young
Chris Leak
Kyler Murray
Jayden Daniels
BY
JJ McCarthy
AJ
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:05 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
that is like saying Marino never won SuperBowl
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:10 pm to LaneB
He didn't win a superbowl. He was fantastic, but i think the majority of dolphin fans would trade him for a superbowl win during his career.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:14 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Not one natty as a starter amongst any of the winners.
You're really reaching with this. Some damn good quarterbacks on that list.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:28 pm to YStar
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I have actually experienced being recruited?
But that still doesn’t justify what you said that he basically lied to Sayin.
And you could be lying yourself about being recruited, you could be some fat chic with a dick for all I know
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:31 pm to Globetrotter747
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You're really reaching with this. Some damn good quarterbacks on that list.
There's some trash qbs too, dude.
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Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:31 pm to hwyman108
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But that still doesn’t justify what you said that he basically lied to Sayin.
How was it a lie? Did Saban not deny on TV and did not everyone around the program including fans not deny he was retiring soon?
Seriously this is too much cope even for fans.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 5:33 pm to LaneB
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that is like saying Marino never won SuperBowl
Yes. Maybe Sayin will go to OhioSt and throw for 10k yards and win zero natties. That'd be like Dan Marino.
Maybe Mack will be like Eli Manning. Win just enough to get to the playoffs and win when it matters. I know which qb I'd like to have.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:05 pm to hwyman108
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And you could be lying yourself about being recruited, you could be some fat chic with a dick for all I know
There are no chicks with dicks, only guys with tits.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:22 pm to JIB
You’re right about that
Posted on 1/21/24 at 6:29 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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There's some trash qbs too, dude.
And there's some trash QB's that went to the Elite 11 and didn't win the thing. Why don't you name all those? Ten elite QB's a year vs. one elite QB is pretty good odds for one of the ten ending up the QB of a national champion.
Let's quit crying about it and finding stupid reasons to justify Sayin not being a loss.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 7:24 pm to Globetrotter747
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Why don't you name all those?
Because you can go to Wikipedia and look at it just like I did. My point is that the Elite 11 is littered with qbs that didn't turn out to be the studs that their star ranking predicted them to be. I'm merely suggesting that winning the Elite 11 means exactly jack shite.
You can cry over Sayin all you want. Facts are, the dude played in a weak division, threw for less than 2500 yards as a Sr in high school, and just hooked his future to Bill O'Brien. Forgive me if I'm a little skeptical of the hype surrounding him.
Posted on 1/21/24 at 9:00 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
All I know is that following Mack at Bama and Sayin at Ohio State will be very interesting in the future.
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if both players end up really good in college.
Both things can be true. DeBoer and his staff probably wanted Sayin to stay and compete but they also didn’t want to lose the guy they believe in with Mack. The guy they developed.
Tough situation but I don’t blame DeBoer if he thinks Austin Mack is legit and I don’t blame Sayin for feeling forced out.
If a new staff was hired and they brought their guy over then you’re going to naturally feel like you’re already behind in the competition.
Wouldn’t be surprised at all if both players end up really good in college.
Both things can be true. DeBoer and his staff probably wanted Sayin to stay and compete but they also didn’t want to lose the guy they believe in with Mack. The guy they developed.
Tough situation but I don’t blame DeBoer if he thinks Austin Mack is legit and I don’t blame Sayin for feeling forced out.
If a new staff was hired and they brought their guy over then you’re going to naturally feel like you’re already behind in the competition.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 7:14 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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My point is that the Elite 11 is littered with qbs that didn't turn out to be the studs that their star ranking predicted them to be.
Well, no shite. Some first round draft picks don’t pan out. Does that mean (generally) you might as well trade for a fourth rounder? Might as well fill a college roster with 2-3 stars instead of 4-5 stars?
Your point is dumb.
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You can cry over Sayin all you want.
I don’t give a flying frick where Sayin or Mack or Downs any other kid goes to school. I just like watching football games. Don’t care who plays for who.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 8:00 am to Globetrotter747
If you look at the Pro Bowl QBs this year all of the AFC guys were first round picks. The NFC QBs have a 6th rounder (Purdy), 4th rounder (Dak), and a 1st rounder (Stafford).
So 66% of the Pro Bowl QBs were 1st rounders.
So 66% of the Pro Bowl QBs were 1st rounders.
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:10 am to JIB
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So 66% of the Pro Bowl QBs were 1st rounders.
That might be true, but Mahomes was a 3*, as were Purdy and Prescott and Josh Allen was a 0* coming out of high school. Allen's only offer was Wyoming.
Yes, you can win with 3* & 4* guys.
What made Saban great was his ability to recruit and stack talent. BAMA isn't going to win like that anymore. The sooner people stop getting their panties twisted about star rankings, the better they'll feel about this team moving forward imo.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 10:13 am
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