re: The NSA existed before the Patriot Act, bless your hearts if you think PAct caused spying

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It did cause spying. Much more spying than before.

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NSA ran multiple listening post in West Virginia using Cray computers to listen to every phone call in the US east of the Mississippi. They had a similar setup in the Rockies for the west coast. It started with targeted phones and had real people listen but upgraded over the years as technology advances allowed the system to automate and record based on keywords instead of everything.

Government owns the inter webs with all traffic going through it’s servers, it can filter and monitor what it wants. The saving grace is volume that can’t be sorted fast enough.

All the Patriot Act did was allow some of that to be admissible in court.

There was a stink in the community when the NSA newsletter published the name of one of the west Va sites when recognizing a soldier assigned to the site. Dad was still at Ft Lee at the time so it was most likely in 1984/1985. And YES the NSA put out a news letter. It always amazes me that such organizations have logos and newsletters, and give out plaques with logos on them.