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re: UGA tight ends on pace for fewest catches in Mark Richt Era

Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:33 pm to
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To be fair, it was the defense that has let us down these past few seasons.

If we could have stopped the run even remotely against Alabama in '12, we'd have a National Championship under Richt, IMO.


You should have seen some of the games the past few years. Offense let us down plenty, just as the d did.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:45 pm to
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"That's not the criteria for being labeled a "record setting" offense."


True. It's the criteria for being labeled an "irrelevant-record record setting offense," or, if you prefer a "World's Greatest Dad" offense.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:54 pm to
I'm convinced that most of the Bobo detractors formed their opinion of him early on and were/are too stubborn to change it.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 9:11 pm to
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We run a Pro Offense with a semi-pro OL, semi-pro Receivers, and high school QBs. Why is anyone surprised this isn't working?


Agree...but by far the biggest of the problems is at QB. I think we could have merely adequate tailbacks but if we had a top tier quarterback, we would be in much better shape than we are with top tier running backs and an badly inconsistent quarterback. A pro offense is always going to be defined by the quality of the QB.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:19 pm to
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I'm convinced that most of the Bobo detractors formed their opinion of him early on and were/are too stubborn to change it.


Some SEC titles would have been able to change many minds, but they weren't won. Remember when we scored 31 total points in back to back SEC title games that were both winnable?
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:11 am to
First of all I'm no Bobo or Schotty fan at this point but let them get their own players. Schotty just lost Chubb on the first play of the game. WR depth is nonexistent and the talent is poor.

Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:47 am to
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I'm convinced that most of the Bobo detractors formed their opinion of him early on and were/are too stubborn to change it.

It took me a while to come around too. Downplaying his record setting offensive production by saying it wasn't good enough to make up for a bad defense is just fricking stupid.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:58 am to
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Some SEC titles would have been able to change many minds


Oh, my bad. You're right. He's the coach responsible for the performance of the entire team. Thanks for showing me the light.

Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:58 am to
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Downplaying his record setting offensive production by saying it wasn't good enough to make up for a bad defense is just fricking stupid.


It's seriously fricking nauseating at this point.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:02 am to
I started to chime in last night but knew there's no point. It's head scratching that some people will go out of their way to FIND something to shite on. One guy says bobo had record setting offenses, then another dumbass says "YEAH AND HOW MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS DID THEY WIN". I swear some of these people didn't graduate elementary school with the way they attempt to discuss things.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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Some SEC titles would have been able to change many minds


Oh, my bad. You're right. He's the coach responsible for the performance of the entire team. Thanks for showing me the light.



He is responsible for his o scoring more than the other team, for moving the ball in a consistent manner, for protecting the ball, and for not choking at the end of a game. You know, doing what championship level offenses do.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 10:24 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:23 am to
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I'm convinced that most of the Bobo detractors formed their opinion of him early on and were/are too stubborn to change it.

It took me a while to come around too. Downplaying his record setting offensive production by saying it wasn't good enough to make up for a bad defense is just fricking stupid.


Not quite as stupid as folks like you who don't possess the ability to look within specific games (such as lackluster and mistake filled title games) and can only focus on season "records".
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:37 pm to
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He is responsible for his o scoring more than the other team


Our DC has a little something to say about how much the other team scores.

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not choking at the end of a game


How about the defense choking away a 24-3 lead like ours did Saturday? Or a defense giving up 400 rushing yards to a team that ran the same play 88 times like the Florida game last year? Or a defense that gave up 380 yards to Bama in the SECCG a few years ago?

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You know, doing what championship level offenses do


You know, there are two sides of the ball. Offense - even championship level offenses - can't do it all on their own. You going to tell me Ole Miss doesn't have a championship level offense? Or you going to tell me that 2009 Alabama Offense was something out of the ordinary? They scored 12 points on Tennessee.

Boils down to this - Bobo turned into quite the good OC. He wasn't the reason we never won a championship during his tenure. Squattinheimer may turn out to be a good one as well but at this point he should try sniffing Bobo's jock strap for good luck.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:45 pm to
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How about the defense choking away a 24-3 lead like ours did Saturday? Or a defense giving up 400 rushing yards to a team that ran the same play 88 times like the Florida game last year? Or a defense that gave up 380 yards to Bama in the SECCG a few years ago?


Are you claiming our o played great in these games?
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:47 pm to
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Are you claiming our o played great in these games?


No. Are you claiming 31 points isn't enough to win a game?

Or are you claiming Alabama has won half of the last 6 national championships with an exceptional offense?
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:49 pm to
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He wasn't the reason we never won a championship during his tenure.


Of course he wasn't THE reason, but he was A reason we didn't win one. Start with that 2011 seccg if you don't believe me.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:53 pm to
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Start with that 2011 seccg if you don't believe me.


Okay. I'll start with defense and special teams giving up 42 points starting with the last minute of the first half.

Or maybe you could start with Alabama scoring 6 points on that 2011 LSU team AT HOME during the season. You know, the Alabama that WON the national championship.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 1:55 pm to
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quote:
Are you claiming our o played great in these games?


No. Are you claiming 31 points isn't enough to win a game?

Or are you claiming Alabama has won half of the last 6 national championships with an exceptional offense?


Do you mean 17? That's how many the o scored vs ut.

Bama's o stepped up in most if not all of their championship games.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32854 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:00 pm to
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Start with that 2011 seccg if you don't believe me.


Okay. I'll start with defense and special teams giving up 42 points starting with the last minute of the first half.
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No one said the d played good. Focus on offense. That's what we are talking about.

Because our o scored 10 points vs LSU and threw an int td, which gave our o a net point diff of 3.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/15 at 2:08 pm to
My point is every offense had bad games. Those teams that win championships do it because of their defense.
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