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Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:27 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:27 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Saban said it was a designed on-side kick that "didn't bloop very good"
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:29 pm to SquatchDawg
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think he called it cause he got worried about a possible FG fake catching the D trying to get set.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:48 pm to HampsteadDawg
A fake? There were only 4 seconds left. WTF?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:53 pm to SquatchDawg
Someone look it up. I'm sure he was asked about it.
There's many good reasons why a time-out would be wise in that situation, so why does it automatically have to be a Richt frick-up?
There's many good reasons why a time-out would be wise in that situation, so why does it automatically have to be a Richt frick-up?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:03 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I'm just following the facts to their natural conclusion.
Bobo, Pruitt and the team battle through a comedy of errors to give us the lead with 18 seconds left....including Mason putting together a game winning drive to end his career... and then CMR steps in and fricks it all up with The Squib Kick and ....as if that wasn't bad enough ....calls a time out to give their kicker time to get his shite together and kick the tying field goal.
59:42 of hard fought football all for nothing thanks to 18 secs of total dumbassedness...thanks to two decisions by one man. Arena indeed....
I'm surprised the whole team didn't whip his arse.
Bobo, Pruitt and the team battle through a comedy of errors to give us the lead with 18 seconds left....including Mason putting together a game winning drive to end his career... and then CMR steps in and fricks it all up with The Squib Kick and ....as if that wasn't bad enough ....calls a time out to give their kicker time to get his shite together and kick the tying field goal.
59:42 of hard fought football all for nothing thanks to 18 secs of total dumbassedness...thanks to two decisions by one man. Arena indeed....
I'm surprised the whole team didn't whip his arse.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:07 pm to SquatchDawg
Have we discussed how shitty the actual squib kick was too?
I dont think they are supposed to catch it on the 30 even with a squib
I dont think they are supposed to catch it on the 30 even with a squib
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:12 pm to K9
I'm sure they practice that at least once every couple of months. So obviously the go-to play when the games on the line...
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:20 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Someone look it up. I'm sure he was asked about it.
I can't find a word on the time out call anywhere....already being pushed under the rug.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:22 pm to K9
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Have we discussed how shitty the actual squib kick was too?
I've tried, but most around here are too thick-headed to listen. The people who say that CMR should have anticipated poor execution on the squib are the same people who assume Morgan can kick it out the back of the endzone when asked to. Only 34% of his kicks this year have been touchbacks. We rank 69th in that category thanks to our sub-par kicker.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:23 pm to SquatchDawg
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I'm sure they practice that at least once every couple of months. So obviously the go-to play when the games on the line...
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:31 pm to UGAalum08
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I've tried, but most around here are too thick-headed to listen. The people who say that CMR should have anticipated poor execution on the squib are the same people who assume Morgan can kick it out the back of the endzone when asked to. Only 34% of his kicks this year have been touchbacks. We rank 69th in that category thanks to our sub-par kicker.
Here's another thing that I'm sure wasn't considered. If Morgan can't reach the endzone (let alone blast it out the back) consistently but you still want to prevent a kick return busting through your coverage...why not kick it deep and out of bounds. They get the ball at the 35 and the 21 yard run by Thomas if it even happens doesn't make it to FG range for them forcing them to heave to the endzone with seconds left. I'd trust our secondary any day in that situation. Was that considered....prob not
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:33 pm to HampsteadDawg
Probably was considered but ruled against in favor of shaving a few seconds off the clock. If kicking out of bounds, there would have been 18 seconds on the clock instead of 13. Enough time for one more play.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:35 pm to HampsteadDawg
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.why not kick it deep and out of bounds
Thats what I was saying...only problem is no time is taken off during the kick. But I like my chances from the 35 with no TO and 18 seconds
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:38 pm to UGAalum08
Agreed, but I don't know that the extra 3-4 seconds they had would have made much of a difference. I think you are talking about a desperation heave vs. a uber long distance FG. I'm sure they are statistically equally futile but I think I'd take my chances with 3/4ths of my D back ready to bat down a bomb over praying a kicker doesn't somehow find a bit extra leg for his kick.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 7:46 pm to UGAalum08
I never said he would kick out of the end zone....I said he should have been TOLD to kick it out of the end zone.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:15 pm to SquatchDawg
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Before squib kick we were winning...18 seconds later we lose.
fricking squib kick cost is the game.
It's so fricking obvious that I can't believe anyone is arguing with you and me about it.
They say our kicker can't kick it out of the end zone.
Well, even if there was only a 30% chance of him kicking it out of the endzone there's a 30% possibility that he does it.
If he doesn't kick out of the endzone, the possibility of a run back to the 43 yard line is very slim.
Foo keeps spouting off all of the extreme scenarios that could have happened if we tried to kick it out of the endzone and failed.
Well, it's just as likely whoever tries to catch the ball fumbles it as it is likely any of his extreme scenarios happen.
I'm not going to become a Richt hater just because he blew this game.
I am just going to blame the loss on him because it was his decision to squib kick the ball and that cost us the game.
Anyone who thinks differently is just fooling themselves.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 8:45 pm to SquatchDawg
After the kick, they were well out of range. Then the 20+ yard run by the QB happened. Then we gave up that TD. Then HM threw what has to be the worst pass ever. Oh, let's not forget the two other turnovers by Chubb and SM ( we would have been up 21-0 which would have totally changed the game's dynamics). To say the kick cost the game is utterly ridiculous....something either a troll or a fricking idiot would say. So which is it?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
The only reason the 20 yd run put them into position was because we squib kicked it. Without The Squib Kick a 20 yd run means they have 4 secs to cover 60 yds or kick a 77 yd field goal.
Squib kick turned a V to a L....also bad time out sealed our fate. 18 secs...2 shitty decisions. No squib kick and Mason is not in that spot...and graduates a winner with a game winning drive.
Game over ... we lose. fricking deal with it.
ETA: also we were winning with 18 secs left...so by definition anything that happened prior to that did not cost us the game. What happened in the last 18 secs did.
Squib kick turned a V to a L....also bad time out sealed our fate. 18 secs...2 shitty decisions. No squib kick and Mason is not in that spot...and graduates a winner with a game winning drive.
Game over ... we lose. fricking deal with it.
ETA: also we were winning with 18 secs left...so by definition anything that happened prior to that did not cost us the game. What happened in the last 18 secs did.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 9:16 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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After the kick, they were well out of range. Then the 20+ yard run by the QB happened.
A kick out of the endzone would have put them on the 25 yard line which is even further out of range. They would have had to have a 38+ yard run by the QB to get into the same field goal position.
If he didn't kick it out of the endzone then they would have had to run it back to the 43 yard line which was very unlikely and it would have taken more time off the clock.
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Then we gave up that TD. Then HM threw what has to be the worst pass ever.
The game wouldn't have even gone into OT if our kicker had kicked the ball out of the endzone which he had a 30% chance of doing or if they ran it back and failed to run it back to the 43 yard line which would have taken more time off the clock.
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Oh, let's not forget the two other turnovers by Chubb and SM ( we would have been up 21-0 which would have totally changed the game's dynamics).
Despite all the fumbles and all the other errors we made in the game we were still winning with 18 seconds left.
At that point in the game, all we had to do is keep them out of FG range for one or two more plays which would have been very difficult for them to do if we kicked the ball out of the endzone or kept them from running back far enough so that a 20+ yard run by their QB would get them in FG range.
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To say the kick didn't cost the game is utterly ridiculous....something either a troll or a fricking idiot would say. So which is it?
FIFY
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:20 am to DawgfaninCa
Winning or not with 18 seconds left, we still need to execute. If we kick it deep and they return it, we still need to execute to keep him out of the end zone. The squib kick was a little short and the defense didn't adequately accounts for the QB on the following play.
Keep talking about the call for the squib if you'd like, but it isn't what lost us the game. We were still tied at the end of regulation. You can say that we shouldn't have been if you'd like, but we also shouldn't have been tied at the half; we should have been up by two TDs. Woulda shoulda coulda and all that.
The squib call, by itself, didn't lose the game for us, and (again) if we would have stopped GT short of FG range, no one would be saying it was stupid, idiotic, or anything else. It would've just been another play.
Keep talking about the call for the squib if you'd like, but it isn't what lost us the game. We were still tied at the end of regulation. You can say that we shouldn't have been if you'd like, but we also shouldn't have been tied at the half; we should have been up by two TDs. Woulda shoulda coulda and all that.
The squib call, by itself, didn't lose the game for us, and (again) if we would have stopped GT short of FG range, no one would be saying it was stupid, idiotic, or anything else. It would've just been another play.
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