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re: The Loss to Tech
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:41 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 12/1/14 at 3:41 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:Tell us what you really think
You and Foo are idiots.
quote:Yep, and a kick-six would have definitely made us lose the game.
In spite of what happened earlier in the game WE WERE WINNING THE GAME WITH ONLY 18 SECONDS LEFT TO PLAY!!!
quote:But the game wasn't over. That's why you play the entire game. We didn't line up in the victory formation in the 1st Qtr after the Chubb run, did we?
We had the game won.
quote:We wound up losing because GT scored on their first OT possession and Mason threw an INT. The FG only tied the game before the end of regulation.
Since we ended up losing the game only a call after we got the go ahead TD cost us the game.
I know which call that was.
If you want to blame plays prior to the INT in OT, you can point to a lot of them, including and especially the two fumbles on the 1 yard line.
quote:Everyone keeps assuming we manage to tackle the returner before he makes it to the end zone. It's likely that we do, but it was also likely that the squib prevented a TD which would have caused us to lose right away rather than losing in OT.
Kicking the ball deep into the endzone would have forced GT to run it out and if they ran it out to the 20-25 yard line then it would have taken at least a few seconds off of the clock.
quote:Another assumption that he gets stopped at the 30-35. If he gets stopped around the 45, more seconds are taken off the clock but we are back to where we were with the squib. If they return it even further down the field, we're talking about giving them a shot at a TD instead of just a FG.
If it had be a longer run to the 30-35 yard line then it would have taken even more seconds off the clock.
quote:Very possible. There were a lot of possibilities, and I outlined why it was a reasonable decision to squib it based on possibilities.
GT would have been in the position of having to throw a Hail Mary or a long sideline pass. If they didn't pass and had a long run to even get in field goal range then it would have run out the clock.
CMR said it in an interview a few weeks ago; a decision is only as smart or stupid as the result (to paraphrase). If we had stopped GT and won the game, no one would be talking about the kick at all.
quote:I didn't see the game so I looked up the drive chart. Looks like there were still 38 seconds left on the clock (20 seconds more than what GT had) when SD kicked off, and Baltimore also had a timeout left. No wonder they didn't squib it; they were able to run 4 plays from scrimmage after the return. Also looks like the returner fumbled the ball, which probably cost the Ravens some more yards, too. Not really the same situation, especially since the Ravens could still pass the ball well enough to pick up big yards if they had to.
BTW, yesterday I caught the end the Chargers vs. the Ravens game and the Chargers went ahead by one point with only 38 seconds left.
On the previous kick off in the game by the Chargers a player on the Ravens had a long run back.
Did the Chargers kick a squib kick because they were afraid of another long run back?
HELL NO!!!
THEY KICKED THE BALL INTO THE END ZONE AND MADE THEM RUN IT OUT!!!
It took 5 seconds off of the clock.
Then the clock ran out before the Ravens could even get into field goal range.
quote:The prevent defense technically gave them the yards/chance to make it. If GT passes the ball incomplete or if we spy the QB and stop him another yard or two short, we win.
None of that matters.
The squib kick got GT close enough for their FG kicker to make the FG even though it was the longest of his career.
That bad call gave him the chance and he made it by inches.
quote:He could have also picked up a big gain taking the ball out of the end zone and we would be in the same spot. He could have also returned it for a TD, in which case we would have lost the game right then and there, instead of fighting a little longer in to overtime.
If GT had been a few inches further back which is where they would have been if they had to run it out of the end zone or even from a few yards outside the endzone then it would have been too far away for him to make the FG.
quote:All call looks better or worse than they were depending on their outcome. I guarantee you he wouldn't have given two thoughts to the squib kick if we stop the QB scramble or if the FG is missed. He knew he would get the blame for the call and he took responsibility for it. It's what he should have done. It doesn't mean it was an "idiotic" call, as some here are saying. Given the outcome, if I were him and could have gone back in time and done it over, I would have had them kick it deep. I'm sure he would have done the opposite if a deep kick was returned to the house. That's what happens in football.
Even Richt is now admitting he made a bad call by doing a squib kick.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 3:43 pm
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:07 pm to FooManChoo
Squib kick cost us the game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:11 pm to GurleyManandProud020
A lot of things "cost us the game", if you want to get dramatic. The squib is the only thing people are really bitching about, and technically that didn't "cost us the game" in the end; the INT on the last play is what literally cost us the game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:52 pm to FooManChoo
If Richt tells Morgan to kick it out of the back of the end zone we win the game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:02 pm to SquatchDawg
So this is assuming Morgan is able to do that. He's only kicked for a touchback about 60% of the time this year. Nearly 100% of the time it is his goal.
Assuming he can do it, even though it's no guarantee, Tech gets the ball on the 20 with 18 seconds remaining vs the 43 with 13 seconds remaining. I'll give you that in that scenario our chances are probably better, but to think that keeps them from 53 yard field goal range, eh...dunno about that.
Assuming he can do it, even though it's no guarantee, Tech gets the ball on the 20 with 18 seconds remaining vs the 43 with 13 seconds remaining. I'll give you that in that scenario our chances are probably better, but to think that keeps them from 53 yard field goal range, eh...dunno about that.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:12 pm to UGAalum08
No squib kick - we win.
In all the other scenarios...the interception, giving up 400 yds, the two fumbles...there was another team actively working against us so you have to give them some credit in doing their job well. Blaming plays in the game is like blaming the weather or the refs.
Nobody was working agains CMR when he made his decision to squib it...except maybe a little cartoon CMR devil sitting on his shoulder. It was just him...squib we lose, kick it deep we win.
We squib kick...we lose.
A coworker was going into a sales meeting today and I told him "don't squib kick it!"
He knew what I meant.
In all the other scenarios...the interception, giving up 400 yds, the two fumbles...there was another team actively working against us so you have to give them some credit in doing their job well. Blaming plays in the game is like blaming the weather or the refs.
Nobody was working agains CMR when he made his decision to squib it...except maybe a little cartoon CMR devil sitting on his shoulder. It was just him...squib we lose, kick it deep we win.
We squib kick...we lose.
A coworker was going into a sales meeting today and I told him "don't squib kick it!"
He knew what I meant.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:25 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:Maybe, maybe not. There was still some time left on the clock to get in FG range. Shoot, they only had one play and they managed to pick up 21 yards. If they had those extra seconds, they could've had 2 or 3 plays. Maybe we stop them, maybe we don't. We didn't stop them from that big run leading to the FG, after all.
If Richt tells Morgan to kick it out of the back of the end zone we win the game.
It's not the call, but the outcome. Seriously, if we squib it and the player fumbles it (similar to how GT squibbed it and recovered against us), or we tackle the QB at the LOS or shortly after, or if we block the FG attempt, or if he straight up misses the FG, no one gives the kick a 2nd thought.
The fake FG we executed early in the game was pretty sweet, but if we fumble it or don't convert the 1st down and give up those three points that we eventually got, people would be blaming CMR for a bad call there; "just get the points and stop being cute!!" is what we would hear. No one is saying anything about that call because it worked. Same for the squib.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:28 pm to SquatchDawg
Again, the kick didn't lose us the game. They didn't get 3 points from the kick. They ran two plays (including the FG try) after the kick which got them the points. If we prevent the 21 yard run, it's a moot issue. If we block the FG or if he just misses it (because he should have), it's a moot issue.
You and others are talking as if the kick lost us the game. There were zero points awarded to GT for that kick.
You and others are talking as if the kick lost us the game. There were zero points awarded to GT for that kick.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:39 pm to FooManChoo
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If we prevent the 21 yard run, it's a moot issue.
That's Richt's fault too. Definitely not Pruitt's. You're not allowed to criticize Pruitt. His failures are Richt's fault, but his successes are his own. Ignorance is strength!
-The 'Just Pruitt Fan Boys' have spoken
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:46 pm to FooManChoo
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You and others are talking as if the kick lost us the game. There were zero points awarded to GT for that kick.
After we fumbled twice on their 1 yard line I had resigned myself to a loss. You could just see that they wanted the game more than we did and our defense sucked. But the 2 plays that sent me over the edge
were both kick-offs. I went ballistic over our lack of effort on the short kick that GT recovered. But even after GT's QB tried his best to give us the game with that fumble and we seemingly had the game in hand with just seconds left on the clock, I turned to my wife and told her that the way the game was going we would find a way to piss it away and sure enough we did with that dumbass squib kick. No, Tech didn't score any points on that squib but it damn sure set them up in excellent field position to get into field goal range which they did on the next play.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:51 pm to SquatchDawg
Prove it.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:51 pm to Jefferson Dawg
It's Quayvon Hicks' fault. You would think that someone being coached on KO returns by a moonlighting Tight Ends coach would know exacty what to do/how to react in every situation that a TE...errr....short return man could be placed in.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:55 pm to davesdawgs
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the short kick that GT recovered.
Side Question: how come the refs blew the play dead as soon as the Tech player grabbed the ball? At first, i thought he must of went out of bounds, but he didn't.
Shouldn't he have been allowed to advance it just like when mississippi state recovered their own onside kick and ran for a td against Kentucky?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Before squib kick we were winning...18 seconds later we lose.
fricking squib kick cost is the game.
fricking squib kick cost is the game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:01 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I'm pretty sure you can't advanced any recovered KO but I could be wrong.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:04 pm to HampsteadDawg
I think i got it backwards.
It was Kentucky that tried the onside kick.....and then Mississippi state recovered and ran straight for TD.
I remember now because it allowed Miss state to cover the spread..
It was Kentucky that tried the onside kick.....and then Mississippi state recovered and ran straight for TD.
I remember now because it allowed Miss state to cover the spread..
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:05 pm to SquatchDawg
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Before squib kick we were winning...18 seconds later we lose. fricking squib kick cost is the game.
Plus the idiotic Time Out call to give Butker time to gain some composure instead of having to rush the kick. It truly was a comedy of errors the last 18 seconds of that game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:14 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Speaking of Weird Kick-offs.........
What was that shite with alabama's opening KO in the iron bowl?
It looked like kicker tried an on-side kick, but the rest of the team wasn't expecting it.....and it landed out of bounds.
Was either a horrible miscommunication, or a snap-hook first tee jitters shank into the woods.
What was that shite with alabama's opening KO in the iron bowl?
It looked like kicker tried an on-side kick, but the rest of the team wasn't expecting it.....and it landed out of bounds.
Was either a horrible miscommunication, or a snap-hook first tee jitters shank into the woods.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:19 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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What was that shite with alabama's opening KO in the iron bowl?
It looked like kicker tried an on-side kick, but the rest of the team wasn't expecting it.....and it landed out of bounds.
Was either a horrible miscommunication, or a snap-hook first tee jitters shank into the woods.
And then the next play AU throws a lateral and gives it back to Bama.
shite seemed choreographed.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:24 pm to HampsteadDawg
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time out
What the hell happened with that? I was listening in the car and just thought we were trying to ice the kicker.
Did Richt frick that up too? Bad enough he screws us with the squib kick but then he has to go ahead and break it off with a bad time out?
All we need is a juggling monkey and it would be a total fricking circus. Richts a one man wrecking ball destructive force of nature.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 6:26 pm
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