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re: The Loss to Tech
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:36 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:36 pm to FooManChoo
Spot F Ing On Garbage Run Def Lost That Game. Not One play
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:37 pm to VADawg
The 49 yarder was last season. I won't claim it doesn't mean anything. Dude still sucks at kicking.
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Is that like a bad call by a ref costing the entire game, as if the rest of the game were played in a total vacuum?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:39 pm to UGAalum08
I will say, our OL regressing into 2011 run blocking form was possibly the biggest disappointment. They shoved around better defenses like it was nothing earlier this season yet they couldn't block a horrible GT defense. That was embarrassing.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:45 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
Got an ESPN link for that?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:48 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
@DDD
Saw the stat earlier myself. The problem is, it's useless without adjusted probability immediately following the squib, and then another immediately following the 21 yard scramble. Without that, it's just cute to look at for an opposing fanbase or somebody wielding a pitchfork.
Saw the stat earlier myself. The problem is, it's useless without adjusted probability immediately following the squib, and then another immediately following the 21 yard scramble. Without that, it's just cute to look at for an opposing fanbase or somebody wielding a pitchfork.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:50 pm to mondegreen
The call was a direct result in a loss. Regardless of all the bullshite that happened we still win the game 99.9 pct of the time if Marshall kicks it deep. The squib increased that probability by a small percentage but not by much. However, kicking it deep was still the right call based on the amount of yards Tech needed. Squib is a guaranteed ball at the 40 as opposed to a high high probability tech starts somewhere between there own 20. They also probably don't return the kick because of the time it would take off the clock so in actuality. It's probably one of the worst calls Richt has ever made and it lost us a rivalry game.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:54 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Prettyboy Floyd
you are better than this...saying one play cost us a game when Chubb, Michel, and HM all made dumbass mistakes is retarded...not to mention the fact that our front 7 couldn't stuff that white kid all day...or the fact that CPJ made a gutsy call to kick a 53 yarder that barely made it over the cross bar...stop dude...every gnat has their day...the players made mistakes...as I said earlier, CMB, CJP, and CMR cannot play the game for them...how many years have Chubb and Michel been running the football?...it should have been 21-0 in the first qtr...stop blaming that one call...
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:59 pm to mondegreen
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:00 pm to VADawg
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm trying to think like a coach here:
GT's specialty is running the football, not passing. In fact, all day the longest pass we allowed was 17 yards, and that was to their best receiver who was out of the game with an injury. We otherwise ate their lunch when it came to the passing game and we were hoping they would pass the ball, especially since 20-30 yards (depending on the the pooch) was a tall order for a designed run play.
With that said, the decision to squib it rather than kick it deep removed the uncertainty of a kick return for a score. They may have been stopped before the 20, or they may have taken it to the house. If they don't return it all the way but still get good position and kick a FG, the worst case is a tie and moving to overtime. A TD would have ended the game then and there with no time to respond. Between a possible kick-six loss and a squib-kick tie in regulation (worst case), the squib is the safer bet for not losing the game in the 4th quarter.
Also consider the the kicker hit his longest try ever on that play (he's only 61% on FG tries), which barely crept over the bar by inches. A very long FG was in UGA's favor, especially considering that we blocked a shorter try earlier in the game. He just happened to make his career high at the right time and we didn't even attempt to block it.
Even if it turned out to be the wrong call (hindsight is 20/20), it wasn't a stupid call by any means and there is logic behind why such a call would be made in that situation.
GT's specialty is running the football, not passing. In fact, all day the longest pass we allowed was 17 yards, and that was to their best receiver who was out of the game with an injury. We otherwise ate their lunch when it came to the passing game and we were hoping they would pass the ball, especially since 20-30 yards (depending on the the pooch) was a tall order for a designed run play.
With that said, the decision to squib it rather than kick it deep removed the uncertainty of a kick return for a score. They may have been stopped before the 20, or they may have taken it to the house. If they don't return it all the way but still get good position and kick a FG, the worst case is a tie and moving to overtime. A TD would have ended the game then and there with no time to respond. Between a possible kick-six loss and a squib-kick tie in regulation (worst case), the squib is the safer bet for not losing the game in the 4th quarter.
Also consider the the kicker hit his longest try ever on that play (he's only 61% on FG tries), which barely crept over the bar by inches. A very long FG was in UGA's favor, especially considering that we blocked a shorter try earlier in the game. He just happened to make his career high at the right time and we didn't even attempt to block it.
Even if it turned out to be the wrong call (hindsight is 20/20), it wasn't a stupid call by any means and there is logic behind why such a call would be made in that situation.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:13 pm to FooManChoo
there you go again with the actual x's and o's of football in a post about our loss...get that shite outta here... 
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:13 pm to SthGADawg
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saying one play cost us a game when Chubb, Michel, and HM all made dumbass mistakes is retarded...not to mention the fact that our front 7 couldn't stuff that white kid all day...or the fact that CPJ made a gutsy call to kick a 53 yarder that barely made it over the cross bar...stop dude...every gnat has their day...the players made mistakes...as I said earlier, CMB, CJP, and CMR cannot play the game for them...how many years have Chubb and Michel been running the football?...it should have been 21-0 in the first qtr...stop blaming that one call...
M'fing this.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:15 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:17 pm to VADawg
Yeah, but Richt probably assumed the band would run on the field and stop him...because that's happened before too.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:22 pm to SthGADawg
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one play cost us a game
One play did cost us the game. One play was a direct result in changing a W to an L. Factor in all the other shite....and we still win the game if Richt kicks it deep. If a guy has a huge return...so be it. I would rather lose that way than put the fricking team in field goal position with a dumbass squib kick followed by prevent defense. Makes no damn sense and there is zero justification for it. I mean the odds are 99 pct that we win the game and managed to lose it.
Somebody fricked up.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:22 pm to VADawg
lol yeah, it can happen (anything can happen in football), but how many squib's are taken to the house compared to deep kicks? If we are talking probabilities here, a squib-six is like winning the lottery twice in the same month compared to a kick-six. There's a reason why it is so commonly used: it gives up some yards to prevent a TD.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:23 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Somebody fricked up.
You are right. But not in the sense that you think - they messed up allowing the qb to run that far.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:25 pm to FooManChoo
Let me flaunt my ignorance again, so feel free to correct me. My understanding was one of the purposes of a squib kick is that the game clock starts when the ball hits the ground. So you run off a few seconds while the ball is bouncing around. These seconds, when there are so few left, are a trade-off for the yards. If that is the case, then the kick is not such a bad idea. It can take a whole play away from the O. The real problem was letting the QB run so far to get in range.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:25 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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One play did cost us the game. One play was a direct result in changing a W to an L.
quote:That was two plays by my count.
a dumbass squib kick followed by prevent defense.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:27 pm to Broncothor
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My understanding was one of the purposes of a squib kick is that the game clock starts when the ball hits the ground
Clock starts when opposing team touches the ball.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:27 pm to Broncothor
quote:That is correct. If we don't let the QB scramble for his longest gain of the day, it wouldn't have mattered what kind of kick we had. They wouldn't have been in FG range and we win the game.
Let me flaunt my ignorance again, so feel free to correct me. My understanding was one of the purposes of a squib kick is that the game clock starts when the ball hits the ground. So you run off a few seconds while the ball is bouncing around. These seconds, when there are so few left, are a trade-off for the yards. If that is the case, then the kick is not such a bad idea. It can take a whole play away from the O. The real problem was letting the QB run so far to get in range.
The kick is only controversial because our defense gave up a huge gain on the next play and their kicker kicked his career long on the next play after that one.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 2:28 pm
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