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Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:16 pm to Barstools
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Was this your much anticipated Chaney post? If so I'm thoroughly disappointed...
Awwww. Now I'm disappointed. I was really, really REALLY hoping I could get your approval.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:17 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Your thread title's got The Clash song stuck in my head.
Sorry. I wasn't a Clash fan, so I am unfamiliar. it was totally unintentional.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:20 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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100 or so yards over the course of 13 games that led to less points. Are you trying to tell me those yards counted for something? That's less than 10 yards per game that led to -1 point per game.
Yards flip field position, which is important. We averaged 1.5 more ppg and 22 more ypg vs power 5 teams.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:23 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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He got nothing of the sort from me. I was probably the first person critical of Kirby here.
Sorry. that wasn't necessarily directed at you. It was in general. Those of us that were critical took a lot of guff for being....critical. And....I was not meaning to criticize Kirby in this thread. It was mainly showing the irony of giving Kirby a pass for facing certain circumstances, while they were the exact circumstances Chaney faced, and people are wanting to run him out of town.
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You posted season long stats. Those stats had less points this year than last. That's the whole point of offense, scoring points.
Not always. Sometimes your offense needs to play for field position....but your point is well taken.
(I am guessing the second part of your post was directed at djs, though, since it was his comment that you are responding to. I really didn't notice that we scored 12 fewer points over the course of the season. however, with the obstacles Chaney had, I would say 12 fewer points is still not altogether bad.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:23 pm to djsdawg
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1.5 more pp
That's not isolating offensive points, is it?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:24 pm to Barstools
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Second and short throw a 60 yard pass
Dude. If you know anything about football at all, you know that is exactly when to go deep.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:28 pm to DawgsLife
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Sometimes your offense needs to play for field position
I get that. Was that what happened for the entire Auburn game? Never had the objective to score, just flip the field?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:33 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Your thread title's got The Clash song stuck in my head.
Same. Which has therefore segued into my thinking about Stranger Things.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:34 pm to FinleyStreet
Just started watching that last night and thought same thing. Weird show.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:34 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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I get that. Was that what happened for the entire Auburn game? Never had the objective to score, just flip the field?
Obviously the objective is always to score. But you want to at least move the ball into the other teams territory and keep them bottled up. By the same token, if you start at your own 20 or less, you want a couple of first downs so you can punt the ball and bottle up your opponent.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:36 pm to DawgsLife
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you want a couple of first downs so you can punt
How about a couple first downs do you have space to operate and get more first downs? The goal shouldn't be a sweet punt.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:36 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:36 pm to DawgsLife
Chaney has been an OC in 56 SEC games at UT, Arkansas and UGA. The record for those teams is 15-41.
The best conference records he's seen as an SEC OC were at Tennessee in 2009 (with Kiffin's offense) and this season: 4-4.
His offenses also scored less than 20 points in half of those 56 games.
The best conference records he's seen as an SEC OC were at Tennessee in 2009 (with Kiffin's offense) and this season: 4-4.
His offenses also scored less than 20 points in half of those 56 games.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:45 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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How about a couple first downs do you have space to operate and get more first downs? The goal shouldn't be a sweet punt.
It is your immediate goal, trust me. Once you get breathing room, sure, you want more. but if you are pinned inside your 5, your immediate/minimum goal is to get a couple of first downs. You play for field position. Sure, you hope for more...
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:48 pm to dawgdayafternoon
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Chaney has been an OC in 56 SEC games at UT, Arkansas and UGA. The record for those teams is 15-41.
Wins and losses are all on the OC? I didn't realize.
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His offenses also scored less than 20 points in half of those 56 games.
I honestly don't know how good those offenses were, but that would be a concerning statistic to me much more than the teams record. Wasn't both stints with some pretty inferior head coaches, and/or rebuilding teams?
Posted on 1/2/17 at 4:50 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Kirby you've got to let me know. Should I stay or should I go?
LINK
Wow. It seems like I have heard a version of that song, or at least something similar. Wow. Plagiarism. I've gotta watch that!
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:03 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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That's not isolating offensive points, is
How many d tds we need to account for? Ut 2015 and au 2016 off the top of my head.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:12 pm to DawgsLife
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Wins and losses are all on the OC? I didn't realize.
It isn't all on him and I'm sure there were other factors that contributed to this record (Bray being injured most of '11; UT having no defense in '12, etc).
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I honestly don't know how good those offenses were, but that would be a concerning statistic to me much more than the teams record. Wasn't both stints with some pretty inferior head coaches, and/or rebuilding teams?
Well, as far as the coaches he worked for, we all know the story with Dooley. Bielema hasn't really been much better with Enos in terms of wins and losses.
That said, it's hard to spin being held to fewer than 20 points in half of the conference games you've coached in.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 5:18 pm to djsdawg
There were 4 non offensive TD's in 2015 and 3 on 2016 but I don't feel like looking for what games they were in. Seeing that made me realize how far behind Bama Georgia really is. Aren't they at 15 non offensive TD's for the season or something ridiculous? Either way it's moot. This offense isn't any better or worse than last season's. I'll focus on figuring out where Chaney gets his food because I'm starving and he clearly knows how to score at the table.
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