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re: (OT) Who will win the presidency?

Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:50 am to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:50 am to
Tell us Junior.... Just exactly how many presidential elections have you even been old enough to vote in? Zero?

Now get your fricking shine box to the kids table.

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:54 am to
Both parties rigged their primaries. The DNC just got busted by wiki leaks conspiring with media etc to disenfranchise voters for all the world to see. It's blatant and out in the open...

Yet the kids table scoffs at the idea of voter fraud being real! Holy shite. We live in a nation of mongo gimps.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:58 am to
More childish insults and emotional appeals by Jefferson, at least some things will never change.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:04 am to
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More childish insults

Says the literal child...that has never been alive to witness a presidential election while old enough to vote....but is lecturing his elders that voter fraud is a myth.

You can't make this shite up.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Yet the kids table scoffs at the idea of voter fraud being real! Holy shite. We live in a nation of mongo gimps.



Sure, voter fraud is real. There's real evidence of it. But to act like it's a wide spread epidemic that is tipping the presidential election is idiotic.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Says the literal child
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Says the literal child...that has never been alive to witness a presidential election while old enough to vote....but is lecturing his elders that voter fraud is a myth.



Even if he was actually...say...18. Does that not award him the ability to understand that voter fraud isn't a serious national issue? When there are more UFO sightings than actual cases of voter fraud per cycle, it's not a problem and it doesn't take a crotchety old man to realize that.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:44 am to
Computer programer testifies under oath in front of Ohio Legislature that he was able to write a program that rigged elections by flipping the total vote from the real winner to a pre-selected candidate.

The Market Daily News reported on 100 precincts in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, that on election day gave Romney zero votes, and Obama got 99 percent. “In more than 50 different precincts, Romney received two votes or less,” the report said. “One would think that such improbable results would get the attention of somebody out there.” Such results are a statistical impossibility and yet were frequent in many states during the 2008 and 2012 elections.

According to Philly.com , 59 voting divisions in Philadelphia produced a “head-spinning figure,” not one vote for Romney. “The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods fertilizes fears of fraud” the newspaper said.

LINK A poll watcher reported that up to 10 percent of the ballots cast at a polling station in Pennsylvania reverted to a default, which gave Barack Obama a vote no matter who the voter had selected. The incident took place in the state where officials claimed Obama got a total of 19,605 votes in 59 voting divisions to zero for Mitt Romney and not far from the 100 precincts in Ohio where Obama got 99 percent of the vote, a feat not even achieved by third-world dictators. It was in Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., where an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.”

Chicago elections worker Steve Pickrum reported that as an equipment manager for the elections system, he was called when a voting machine malfunctioned. “On early voting when I did work on the floor when voters needed help using the equipment, I was able to see the preference of the voter, and every time that I saw [a] voter voted for Romney a ‘voter save failure’ message came up on the screen,'” he reported. Then when he went on election day to vote himself, he picked Romney and experienced the same error message. He reported he never experienced the error message when the voter was choosing Barack Obama.

A poll worker assigned at the University of Michigan reported a list of irregularities, including that the precinct captain told her at one point, “You go sit down, you are bothering me,” when she was trying to observe the proceedings. “I was only standing there and looking at voter documents,” she told WND. “It was clear that what bothered him was my very presence.” She said a short time later a young man arrived and identified himself as a Democrat poll challenger. “The first time he said anything was to object to my challenge of a voter. He tried to anger the voter by telling her ‘She does not believe you are who you say you are.’ He was trying to create a scene. It then happened again and I told him ‘You are not here to challenge me!’ His reply was a very loud ‘Yes I am! You are a Republican and you are here to prevent people from voting. You are holding up the line and creating obstructions,'” she reported. She told WND in fact no one waited more than about 15 minutes to vote the entire day, and there were no obstructions.

The Sun Sentinel reported that election workers a week after the election said they found 963 unaccounted-for ballots – in a warehouse. “How can you lose them? This is terrible,” Chickie Brandimarte told officials. Election supervisor Brenda Snipes, however, said it’s routine for various vote totals to be adjusted up until the Nov. 18 final certification.

Claims increase of machines switching votes. Voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio report that they had pushed a button on a touch-screen voting machine for Romney, but the machines recorded their vote for Obama.

The Columbus Dispatch reported that more than 20 percent of registered Ohio voters aren’t eligible. “In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population,” the report said. And, it said, in 31 other counties, registrations are above 90 percent of the population, “a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts.”

The Washington Times reported that officials in Florida banned observers from seeing the absentee ballots being opened and in some districts some how more ballots were produced than there were eligible voters in those districts.

The Washington Times reported voter fraud in Pennsylvania, including that “in Philadelphia, the [New] Black Panthers are currently standing outside polling booths, intimidating voters just like they did in 2008.” It said, too, that 75 Republican polling inspectors were blocked from access to their polling stations.

The Pundit Press reported that Obama got over 99% of votes in Florida's Broward County precincts, a statistical impossibility.

The Pundit Press reported that Obama received 100% of the vote from 90% of the registered voters in dozen's of Cleveland districts, including all the voters registered as Republicans. Another statistical impossibility.

The Pundit Press reported St. Lucie County, Florida Had 141.1% Turnout; Obama Won County. Out of 175,554 registered voters, 247,713 vote cards were cast in St. Lucie County, Florida on Tuesday.


Ummmmm, you were saying?

Sorry, but there's voter fraud out the arse and it absolutely does have a huge effect on presidential elections.

Why do so many of you have your head buried in the sand? There's corruption everywhere just kicking us all in the face, and most of you are like, "Duh, I only believe what the CNN and MSNBC tells me."

Useful sheep. That's all you are.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 9:59 am to
Excellent work Beefdawg
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:13 am to
Here's more videos showing proof of voter machine rigging. One is an hour long documentary made by HBO.

Voting maching rigging interview.

HBO Documentary: Hacking Democracy
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3494 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:28 am to
BeefDawg definitely won this thread.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Ummmmm, you were saying?



I said there was voter fraud. It's real, I'm not denying that.

Please actually read all of your links. If you think these are wide spread instances that are affecting election outcomes, you're outside your damn mind. Hell, most of the egregious shite is taking place in precincts where republicans don't have a chance anyway. Where they aren't going to win.

Now if you can show me instances of rampant fraud in areas where it's a historically close race, then I'm with you. But the links you provided don't provide any evidence that would swing elections. Until then, it's not costing anyone anything.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7446 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:48 am to
Dawgfan speaks the truth.

Hillary should have been easy to beat. Pubs have fuct this up with infighting.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:41 am to
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Hell, most of the egregious shite is taking place in precincts where republicans don't have a chance anyway. Where they aren't going to win.

You're talking out your arse.

Cuyahoga County voter registration breakdown: LINK

Ohio is a battleground swing state, and Cuyahoga County has 871,726 registered voters. 228,051 are registered Democrat, 151,757 are registered Republican, and 491,349 are registered Independent.

Almost 900,000 voters in a swing state, and you don't think that's a big deal that could cost anyone anything? Are you kidding?

Not to mention almost every state that's mentioned in each of those links is also a swing state. Nevada, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida are ALL swing states with damn near 50/50 Dem/Rep voting populace and boatloads of Independents who could go either way.

Do you understand what a swing state is and why they are called this?

Also, you clearly didn't watch the video of the first link. The 2000 election came down to Florida for Bush and Gore and a difference of something like only 60,000 votes. So if there was voting machine rigging that was handing votes to Bush, he very well could have lost the election if that is in fact true.

So GTFO with your trying to minimize this. You're the one who clearly didn't read the articles.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17463 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:42 am to
quote:

BeefDawg


Boom.

No election fraud? My arse...
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 11:59 am to
It's crazy.

There's not a single row on this list of almost 900,000 registered voters that has a ZERO in the Republican and Independent column, and yet over 100 voting districts on this list recorded 100% voting for Obama in 2012.

Cuyahoga County Ohio voter registration by party.

Districts with hundreds of registered Republicans and hundreds of registered Independents some how voted 100% Democrat. Like not one single vote for Romney. NOT ONE!

I guess all the white folks in Cleveland are just drowning in white-guilt and couldn't resist handing Obama some "reparations"?

AND, over 90% of the registered voters actually voted too. Which is unheard of and significantly higher than the national average.

And how about 141% of the registered voters in Florida districts voting? Another swing state that could go either way.

But hey, this stuff means nothing, right?

Kinda like voter ID laws are meaningless, right?
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Cuyahoga County voter registration breakdown: LINK



And what is the breakdown of the precincts that went 99-100% in favor of Obama? That's my entire point. If these precincts are all in the tank for Obama (which multiple sources and data suggest) then this is such a non-issue. Cuyahoga County is a democratic stronghold in Cleveland.

And even so, all this looks like is a "strange but true" situation. There isn't actual evidence of voter fraud or voter tampering.

LINK

quote:

Do you understand what a swing state is and why they are called this?



No, please tell me more.

Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:38 pm to
Beef FTW.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:39 pm to
Hello, you do know the Democrats rigged the system to nominate Hillary? She is likely the most crooked of all time...
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29663 posts
Posted on 8/17/16 at 12:40 pm to
Down vote

And it makes me physically ill....
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