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re: OT- Metro Atlanta police officer shoots, kills naked, unarmed man

Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:36 pm to
Crazy people murder people.

Crazy people are prescribed crazy pills.

The common denominator is Crazy.


The Pills aren't causing the murders.

That's intellectual laziness, on which most (but not all) conspiracy theory is based.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:38 pm to
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Crazy people have always done crazy shite. It's only in the last 20 years that we have 24 hour news.... and they need content; inventory to fill all of those hours.

Of course. But, how is the 24 hour news cycle responsible for 70% of veterans that saw combat in Iraq or Afghanistan being prescribed psychotropic drugs? And how is it responsible for all the violence and suicide that has come from this specific group?

Other than by refusing to report on these issues since most of them are really just propaganda mouth-pieces for the government anyway.......

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Crazy people are prescribed crazy pills.

The common denominator is Crazy.


The Pills aren't causing the murders.

I guess it's just a "conspiracy theory" then that some of the crazy pills list side-effects such as the following on their very own boxes.......

-Hallucinations
-Unusual chages in behavior
-Aggression
-Suicidal ideation
-Paranoia
-Psychosis
-Homicidal ideation

....to name a few off the top of my head.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:50 pm to
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70% of veterans that saw combat in Iraq or Afghanistan being prescribed psychotropic drugs


Is this a real number, or is this hyperbole?



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all the violence and suicide that has come from this specific group


Vietnam Vets did just as much crazy murderous suicidal shite without today's pills. Why are the pills the problem? Crazy is the problem.


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Other than by refusing to report on these issues since most of them are really just propaganda mouth-pieces for the government anyway.......


You give them too much credit. They are mostly just ignorant and self-absorbed. They believe they are sacred. The difference between a news editor and God? God doesn't think he's a newspaper editor.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:52 pm to
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Bunch of kids brutally kill a buddy and his mom at home. Burn the house down.


I read as many as 10 arrests could be made in connection,7 so far. Sorry for this family and their loss. They are saying it's a gang robbery of your friends gun collection. Sumter Co has a gang problem?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:25 pm to
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gang


That's just a media code word for "poor."


Sometimes coded as "disadvantaged."
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:35 pm to
I thought "disadvantaged" meant non-white, and "youth" meant 13-21 yr old black kid that would murder you for a pair of Jordan's,and is reported to be "a good boy" by an absentee mother?
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:35 pm to
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And if you were a police officer, what would be your #1 priority? Just curious.


Obeying the law. That makes making it home alive a lot more likely. If you can find one, ask someone who was a cop in NYC in the 70s what it's like when the populace turns against you.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:43 pm to
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At the end of the day, if you charge at a cop you deserve whatever happens


horseshite. They are bound by the law same as anyone else. Citizens can resist an unlawful arrest with force, up to and including killing the officer attempting it. See John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529.

And hell, in Georgia: “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:46 pm to
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Anybody else notice this detail as a common theme in so many of the bizarre and tragic news stories: Mentally ill veterans on psychotropic drugs.


Psychotropic drugs are often badly overprescribed. Hell, most of the ads on tv even warn of possible "violent moods". In a lot of mass-shootings, the shooter was either on, or just recently off a psychotropic drug of some sort.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:03 pm to
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Psychotropic drugs are often badly overprescribed. Hell, most of the ads on tv even warn of possible "violent moods". In a lot of mass-shootings, the shooter was either on, or just recently off a psychotropic drug of some sort.

In a decade or so, the over-prescribing of these dangerous drugs on such a mass scale will probably be considered just as ill-advised and barbaric as lobotomies are now considered.

I bet also, that back in the hey day of the Lobotomy, that there were people who would probably call someone a "conspiracy theorist" if they questioned the wisdom of such a brutal and clumsy procedure of actually cutting out chunks of people's brains to "cure" mental illnesses.....


Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14179 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:11 pm to
Overprescribing is an understatement. This shits being handed out to women like candy nowadays.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:35 pm to
Put your clothes on before the cops show up. Otherwise........
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

I guess it's just a "conspiracy theory" then that some of the crazy pills list side-effects such as the following on their very own boxes.......

-Hallucinations
-Unusual chages in behavior
-Aggression
-Suicidal ideation
-Paranoia
-Psychosis
-Homicidal ideation

....to name a few off the top of my head.

Which pills are you referring to? Unusual changes in behavior is one that is on there, due to the sedating nature. Regarding suicide, antipsychotics don't increase the risk but there is definitely an increased risk in the schizophrenic population already. SSRIs do increase the risk early in the course of treatment, especially in younger patients.

But hallucinations, aggression, paranoia, psychosis, etc are actually not in the side-effects profiles and were much more frequent in the placebo groups

The main exception is if you have a bipolar patient who is in their first depressive state and you give them an SSRI (not knowing they're a bipolar) and you cause them to cycle into mania.

I do agree that some people are overmedicated, but these drugs have their place in medical treatment and are definitely necessary in plenty of cases but obviously not every case.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:28 pm to
All of that being said, as a society we are too dependent on wanting to find a pill to fix everything. It's already a big problem and it is going to get a lot worse.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2789 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 2:29 am to
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 3:41 am to
Thumbs up man. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 6:23 am to
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That's the arrogance and cluelessness of the state personified, right there. Thinking they can cure and cover-up the undesirable consequences of their evil idiotic plots with a fricking magic pill...

It's staggering.


I understand what you are saying and in many ways agree...however, how many on this board does the exact same thing while having never experienced war? how many have experimented with LSD, Meth, Coke, Marijuana, alcohol or other drugs?
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 7:28 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 8:44 am to
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Which pills are you referring to? Unusual changes in behavior is one that is on there, due to the sedating nature. Regarding suicide, antipsychotics don't increase the risk but there is definitely an increased risk in the schizophrenic population already. SSRIs do increase the risk early in the course of treatment, especially in younger patients.

But hallucinations, aggression, paranoia, psychosis, etc are actually not in the side-effects profiles and were much more frequent in the placebo groups

The main exception is if you have a bipolar patient who is in their first depressive state and you give them an SSRI (not knowing they're a bipolar) and you cause them to cycle into mania.

















Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:46 am to
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