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re: OT- Metro Atlanta police officer shoots, kills naked, unarmed man
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:30 am to DawgCountry
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:30 am to DawgCountry
American police seem to be the only police in the world with a "shoot to kill" policy. Maybe thngs happened so fast in this case the officer had no choice, but it seems to me there are a lot of deaths at the hands of the ploice that involve multiple gunshots all aimed at the core.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:33 am to boliep
I have no idea where he shot him. I was referring to someone saying a better option would be to try and shoot them in the leg by saying you aim for center mass.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:35 am to Spaceman Spiff
quote:Unfortunately, you're exactly right.
There is a very, very distinct reason for that CNN wouldn't report something like this.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:46 am to Jefferson Dawg
There is a HUGE correlation between mass shootings, suicides and psychotropic drugs. However there is also a HUGE revenue stream to pharma companies for these drugs as well.
It's pretty clear what's going on here and it's disgusting that nobody is doing anything about it.
It's pretty clear what's going on here and it's disgusting that nobody is doing anything about it.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:01 am to SquatchDawg
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It's pretty clear what's going on here and it's disgusting that nobody is doing anything about it.
Welcome to American Corporatism. It's not capitalism, it's is literally corporate welfare at the expense of the American people. Our gov't is bought and paid for by corporate interests and it's not likely to change anytime soon; trying to get congress to pass a bill that gets themselves out of the pockets of lobbyists will never happen because it's too lucrative for our elected officials.
I'm beginning to doubt that there's a single, solitary congressman or senator that is not crooked as a question mark.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:16 am to DawgCountry
Seems like the officer could have used a taser. Initial information leads me to believe this is another case of excessive force.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:25 am to RedPants
Was this cop a member of SAE?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:17 am to Jefferson Dawg
It isn't a new phenomenon. There have always been mentally insane people. They just used to barbarically lock them up until they died. It us also far easier to kill lots of people at once these days.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:21 am to Leghumper
Had no choice? The man was stark naked! If he wasn't holding a weapon in his hand, where do you think he was concealing it. Sounds like tazing would have been a decent option. Not to mention, the guy was shot twice.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 11:24 am to SoGaFan
Stop you're being rational.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:26 pm to crispyUGA
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Welcome to American Corporatism. It's not capitalism, it's is literally corporate welfare at the expense of the American people. Our gov't is bought and paid for by corporate interests and it's not likely to change anytime soon; trying to get congress to pass a bill that gets themselves out of the pockets of lobbyists will never happen because it's too lucrative for our elected officials. I'm beginning to doubt that there's a single, solitary congressman or senator that is not crooked as a question mark.
^^ This.
Super PAC's and non-profits that are essentially proxies for the wealthiest 1%-5% individuals and corporations and even entire whole foreign countries, combined with a royally messed up campaign financing system is pretty much the direct cause of the vast majority of our problems.
It's like the greatest flow-chart of direct causation that you could ever conceive. And both sides of the fence are involved, and at many times their flow-chart lines intersect or actually enter the same box.
Of the top-50 donors to politicians, 27 are pure Democrat, 6 are pure Republican, and 17 donate around 50/50 to both. In 2014, Democrats got nearly $900 million, and Republicans got nearly $500 million.
And 95% of all those donations come from the wealthiest 1-5% of individuals and largest blue-chip corporations, and even a few foreign countries (which is illegal, by the way, but that didn't stop Hillary from accepting donations from several foreign countries to the Clinton Foundation)
Rich Democrat people and corporations push for higher taxes and greater regulations because they want to stifle rising competition. They can afford those higher taxes and can subvert regulations because they essentially own the people who enforce the regulations. But the second and third tier rising companies that are direct competition to the top tier can't afford those things and it suppresses their growth. This ensures the top tier stays at the top.
This is also why the party of the rich is not the Republicans, like Harry Reid's obsession with the Koch brothers, and the liberal media would want everyone to believe.
Wall Street is mostly Democrat too, because they play the arbitrage game on all this crap and they make huge bank off it.
Rich Republicans make their money off consumer spending. This is why they dislike the idea of stifling middle-tier businesses, because hurting these businesses leads directly to less people having jobs making good money. This means less discretionary cash flowing through the population, which means less consumer spending.
The problem there, however, is if middle-tier business is allowed to succeed and grow, the top tier corporations and rich 1%'ers would logically lose market and consumer share, and of course make less. This is why the Republican way is not as popular and there's many more pure Democrat donors than pure Republican, and much more in donations to Dems than Reps too.
Just goes to show you how full of shite the Liberal media is too. Every Democrat in existence thinks the party of the rich are the Republicans and that the corrupt Corporate American puppet masters controlling Washington are all Republicans, and the Democrats are the righteous ones fighting evil corporatism.
So many ignorant foolish idiots in this country who have allowed themselves to be manipulated into believing that, when the truth is 100% the opposite.
All this deception, lies, and manipulation trickles down, down, down, until it's at our level and even below. The Democrats NEED racial division and the poor to stay poor. In fact, they need more people to become poor.
White police officers in this country essentially represent government sponsored gun-toting trigger-happy oppressors of the impoverished and unfortunate.
Democrats get to play the anti-gun angle AND the white racist vs. oppressed black angle, which leads directly to more racial division. Which leads directly to Democrat votes.
This is why black on black cases of any sort are completely ignored.
And it ALL leads right back up to the corruption of the rich and their need for Democrat politicians to be in power.
This is also why Democrats will never actually help the poor get out of poverty. And this is also why they want amnesty for illegal aliens. Democrat votes keeps Democrats in power, which allows the rich and corporations to stay rich and at the top.
Now don't get me wrong, Republican politicians are just as corrupt. They are completely under the thumb of the wealthiest Republican donors. They are also very deep in to the military industrial complex, awarding government contracts to crony corporations, and as a result tend to appear heavily in favor of using military resources as much as possible.
So it's not like Reps are any better. The biggest difference is, however, that at least Republicans want more people to have more money. They don't want to stifle any business competition because they know this means jobs and more money flowing through the population.
If poor people and minorities would just realize this, they would be so much better off. They would realize that welfare and Democrat handout programs are specifically designed to hold them back by enabling appeasement and demoralization. And that higher taxes and over-regulation is designed to prevent them from having jobs available so they can get out of poverty and move in to the middle-class.
It's just a sad state of affairs. It's beyond depressing knowing what's really going on and seeing the vast majority of people allow themselves to be manipulated on both sides. There's just as many corrupt Republicans in Washington as there are corrupt Democrats. They simply have different agenda's and are hurting all of us in different ways.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:33 pm to SoGaFan
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There have always been mentally insane people.
Of course. But, they haven't always been treated with toxic conscience-dulling drugs that are proven to cause suicidal and violent behavior.
Take a look at the long list of nut-jobs responsible for mass killings over the past several decades and you'll find a common theme with the medications they were on. And while your at it, take a look at rates of mental illness for veterans and military personnel compared to the rest of the population..............
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:53 pm to Jefferson Dawg
quote:They weren't always treated with meds because they used to be institutionalized indefinitely. Deinstitutionalization wasn't as successful as people thought it would be. But there's not a good answer for that given the problems with how things used to be done.
But, they haven't always been treated with toxic conscience-dulling drugs that are proven to cause suicidal and violent behavior.
Psych meds are a difficult topic because they're not always predictable. There are a lot of people that are able to live pretty normal lives because of them when they would be locked up in a sanitarium in the past.
Not saying there aren't problems with them or that pharmaceutical companies aren't raking in the cash on them, just that it's more complex than "they're being fed crazy pills to make people rich."
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:31 pm to TMDawg
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it's more complex than "they're being fed crazy pills to make people rich."
I haven't tried to make that point, although it's an imprortant one. SOmeone else took it in that direction.
Instead, my point was and is simply this.........
The man who was shot was suffering from a mental illness. And witnesses have said that he was being treated by the Veteran's Administration and was having difficulties with the medication they were prescribing him.
As I said.......the grim reality when you hear news such as this these days, is that you will often find two common themes within the story. 1) That the person suffering from the mental illness was a veteran or military personnel. And 2) that the person was on very powerful psychotropic drugs which admit on their own warning labels that they can cause the behaviors in question as a side-effect.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:19 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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As I said.......the grim reality when you hear news such as this these days, is that you will often find two common themes within the story. 1) That the person suffering from the mental illness was a veteran or military personnel. And 2) that the person was on very powerful psychotropic drugs which admit on their own warning labels that they can cause the behaviors in question as a side-effect.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
The mental illnesses in the military from the last decade or so probably have a lot to do with the Global War on Oil, I mean Terrorism.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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As I said.......the grim reality when you hear news such as this these days, is that you will often find two common themes within the story. 1) That the person suffering from the mental illness was a veteran or military personnel. And 2) that the person was on very powerful psychotropic drugs which admit on their own warning labels that they can cause the behaviors in question as a side-effect.
Yea, the first part in particular is the part that I hate the most. Not getting into the politics of various wars but they have taken a toll in a number of ways and mental health is a big one (I'm not familiar with this particular story, don't know if the guy was in active combat previously or what). It's a mess.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:18 pm to LewDawg
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The mental illnesses in the military from the last decade or so probably have a lot to do with the Global War on Oil, I mean Terrorism.
No doubt. And how much of it is even "mental illness" and not simply a human being's normal and NATURAL reaction to the ABNORMAL stresses and trauma of war?
That's the arrogance and cluelessness of the state personified, right there. Thinking they can cure and cover-up the undesirable consequences of their evil idiotic plots with a fricking magic pill...
It's staggering.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:21 pm to TMDawg
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don't know if the guy was in active combat previously or what).
I don't know if he saw combat, but i read where he did four years in Afghanistan. His family said he started first having mental health issues after getting back home......
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:27 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Thought: Why are there so many mentally ill veterans or otherwise doing crazy shite these days? WHy is this such a new phenomenon?
Crazy people have always done crazy shite. It's only in the last 20 years that we have 24 hour news.... and they need content; inventory to fill all of those hours.
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