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re: Moving On- Who is UGA's Next OC?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:27 am to TMDawg
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:27 am to TMDawg
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Acknowledging that it's a problem higher up than Richt is the part that sucks the most
I'll ask again....
How did the new trendy talking-point about McGarity being cheap cause the fumbles or the squib kick against Tech?.... or cause one of the shittiest Defensive performances in history against a terrible Florida team?.... or cause us to lay another Defensive egg against a garbage USCe team?
Please explain how higher salaries or indoor practice facilities or anything else regurgitated within the talking-point caused a team capable of playing the way it did against Clemson or miZzzouri or arkansas for example to show up and play like it did in the three losses.
DOesn't make any sense to me.
NOt to mention the fact that a team you people seem to envy like Auburn with the "Championship or bust" "money-is-no-object" mentality had 4 losses this season. ONe of them to us supposed "cheapskates".........
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:28 am to VADawg
Might be a dumb question but will Bobo coach in bowl game? Figure with CSU season over he could go out one more time as a Dawg?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:31 am to DanaPointDawg
Nah it's extremely rare for an outgoing coach to stick around for a bowl. They want to get a jump on recruiting at their new gig.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:33 am to Jefferson Dawg
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How did the new trendy talking-point about McGarity being cheap cause the fumbles or the squib kick against Tech?.... or cause one of the shittiest Defensive performances in history against a terrible Florida team?.... or cause us to lay another Defensive egg against a garbage USCe team?
They didn't..you're right about that. However, it's also a fact that Bobo was making a hair more than $500K this year which is simply incredible considering his tenure and his resume. I mean, we gave Grantham $750K right off the bat before he even set foot on campus. It's a joke that Bobo was so grossly underpaid.
It seems that the "cool" thing to do now is bash mcgarity, but I think a lot of it is simply a buildup of frustrating events. It started with teh swimming ordeal dragging out for damn near a whole year. Then the botching from 100 different angles in the Gurley case. Then our DC publicly making comments about an IPF and mcgarity swiftly rejecting them, also publicly. And now us losing one of our best assistants.
I think people are just at the point now where they're just fed up with the guy, and they have good reason IMO.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:35 am to VADawg
It will be interesting to see who is calling plays in Charlotte.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:35 am to DanaPointDawg
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will Bobo coach in bowl game?
I highly doubt it, as it would serve no real purpose to either party. His loyalty now should be with CSU so him wasting over a week for bowl prep is pointless, and from our end Richt is perfectly capable of calling plays.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:36 am to DanaPointDawg
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It will be interesting to see who is calling plays in Charlotte.
Richt
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:43 am to DanaPointDawg
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It will be interesting to see who is calling plays in Charlotte.
I heard McGarity hasn't paid the laminating bill at Kinkos..... so there won't be any play-call sheets available for Charlotte..........
We;re doomed!
McGarity is cheap!
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:47 am to Jefferson Dawg
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How did the new trendy talking-point about McGarity being cheap cause the fumbles or the squib kick against Tech?.... or cause one of the shittiest Defensive performances in history against a terrible Florida team?.... or cause us to lay another Defensive egg against a garbage USCe team?
Please explain how higher salaries or indoor practice facilities or anything else regurgitated within the talking-point caused a team capable of playing the way it did against Clemson or miZzzouri or arkansas for example to show up and play like it did in the three losses.
It's a deflection to find something to blame other than CMR or the Coaching staff when they do something stupid. Some people are so invested in Richt/Pruitt/Bobo (edit) that they can't bring themselves to criticize them.
These same folks can't seem to grasp that Bobo is smart enough to realize that he needs HC experience....AND...he's smart enough to realize that getting this at CSU is better than jumping into the deep end and drowning like Muschamp did. It may have had nothing to do with the money...or UGA...or anything else that Admin could've changed.
That's my take on it anyway...
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:50 am to WG_Dawg
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It's a joke that Bobo was so grossly underpaid.
So you're assuming he went into somebody's office and demanded more money?
Because if he didn't, that's on him. Nobody is going to just come off the hip and pay you more out of the goodness of their heart. At least not in my experience...you have to make a stand and be ready to quit.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:54 am to Hobnail
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Harbaugh or bust... I'm all in.
Then you should become an Auburn fan.....
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:58 am to SquatchDawg
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So you're assuming he went into somebody's office and demanded more money?
Did I say that? I don't know what mike bobo does on a daily basis with his life. The point is that for someone with his accolades he should damn sure have been making more than he was. Even if he never thought about it or asked for it, any good AD would say "mike, you're doing a hell of a job man and we want to show our appreciation, how bout an X% raise". The fact that we brought in our 4th or 5th choice for DC, a guy who was largely average to poor in the NFL and was actually fired from one gig, and who hadn't been in college ball in 12 years and never as a DC, was given $250K more than bobo right off the bat is simply absurd. There's no other way to spin that...if we felt that grantham commanded $750K to come here, we should've given bobo that much as well.
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Nobody is going to just come off the hip and pay you more out of the goodness of their heart.
Many, many coaches get bonuses or raises for good performance. Many non-coaches in the business world do as well.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:14 am to WG_Dawg
Hell...for all we know CMG did offer him money to keep him and was turned down. If he'd have offered a $200K/yr bump a year ago would this have kept him? I doubt it.
This happens all the time. The amount you pay somebody to GET them doesn't always equal what you pay folks doing the same or better job that you already have. A "Grade X" pay scheme only applies in government. IMO opinion then it's on Bobo to go "wait a damn minute"...
I would be willing to assume that most bonuses of this nature are written into their contracts. Generic company bonuses are different too than just being given a 50% raise out of the blue.
My only point was that we don't know if Bobo was frequently turned down for more money and frustrated...or just looking for a way to get HC experience.
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DC, was given $250K more than bobo right off the bat is simply absurd
This happens all the time. The amount you pay somebody to GET them doesn't always equal what you pay folks doing the same or better job that you already have. A "Grade X" pay scheme only applies in government. IMO opinion then it's on Bobo to go "wait a damn minute"...
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Many, many coaches get bonuses or raises for good performance. Many non-coaches in the business world do as well.
I would be willing to assume that most bonuses of this nature are written into their contracts. Generic company bonuses are different too than just being given a 50% raise out of the blue.
My only point was that we don't know if Bobo was frequently turned down for more money and frustrated...or just looking for a way to get HC experience.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:27 am to SquatchDawg
I love how yall have turned this forum from a OC candidates discussion to a screw McGarity issue, especially over hearsay. Not one person has presented legit evidence that McGarity and Richt are at odds. Besides that, that is not what this forum is for. Go somewhere else with noise!!!
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:31 am to history88
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Not one person has presented legit evidence that McGarity and Richt are at odds
What about the fact that Richt has asked for an IPF for about 10 years now and still doesn't have one?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:39 am to WG_Dawg
That problem existed before McGarity and goes all the way back to Dooley. Do you really think Dooley was anti-football and cheap??? No more publicity has come about the IPF and peoole get pissed. This could be evidence that someone higher up is preventing the IPF or making it harder.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:45 am to SquatchDawg
Since yall are talking about coaching incentives it will be hard for Georgia, anybody for that matter, to wrestle a coach away from Alabama. Their coaches get a bonus for reaching a particular level. I know much and can tell you its a HUGE bonus but i will not say the exact amount. Thats really the coaches business but i say that to say that UGA would have pay a lot more for an alabama assistant than most others otherwise its not worth the move.
Forgive me for typos, i am using a phone and it has water damage.
Forgive me for typos, i am using a phone and it has water damage.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:49 am to history88
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That problem existed before McGarity and goes all the way back to Dooley
Ok..so in 2010 mcgarity could've done something about it could he not? Nothing that happened in the early 90s has anythign to do with mcgarity's ability or inability to build an IPF.
And I'm quite sure that goff/donnan didn't make as much of a fuss about an IPF as richt has. And pruitt in one year has already lashed out about it as well, to be publicly shot down by his boss.
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Do you really think Dooley was anti-football and cheap???
Anti-football? Idk how to quantify that but I would guess no. Cheap? Hell yes. Did you not see the state of our basketball and baseball facilities under his watch? It took Damon coming in to FINALLY do something about it.
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This could be evidence that someone higher up is preventing the IPF or making it harder.
Yeah, mcgarity doesn't want to buy it.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:55 am to WG_Dawg
Richt first said something publicly under Damon. You forget Dooley was our AD until 2002 or 2003. Uga could have been among the first to have an IPF. I am telling you, the problem is higher up than AD, IMO.
Dooley is a football guy and football makes 98%, or around about, of the revenue for all of the athletic department. Why build something up that your not going to get a return on? I am not justifying but instead giving a potential perspective.
Dooley is a football guy and football makes 98%, or around about, of the revenue for all of the athletic department. Why build something up that your not going to get a return on? I am not justifying but instead giving a potential perspective.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:00 pm to Hobnail
Rumors out there about trying for both Napier & Cristobal from Bama for the OC & OL coaches spots... 
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 12:02 pm
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