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Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:54 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:54 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
OK you got me.... Bama with only 32.1 in 2009.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 3:58 pm to deeprig9
I get what your saying, and I agree that Mason will have to be able to consistently lead the offense to 30-35 points a game if we are going to make a run at the SECCG
Just bustin your shite a little
Just bustin your shite a little
Posted on 1/1/14 at 4:08 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
Well I pulled the 35 number out of my arse so it goes to show how sharp my football instincts and insights are.
That year Bama in 2009 won it... their defense gave up an average of 11 points per game. That isn't going to happen at UGA, or anywhere. That's just ridiculous, unless UGA decides to load up on cupcakes OOC and ditch the Tech game.
That year Bama in 2009 won it... their defense gave up an average of 11 points per game. That isn't going to happen at UGA, or anywhere. That's just ridiculous, unless UGA decides to load up on cupcakes OOC and ditch the Tech game.
This post was edited on 1/1/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:11 am to deeprig9
Mason looks like the second coming of Joe Cox.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 11:54 am to P-Dawg
All of the posters on here giving Mason hell should go back and look at Murray's first bowl game, yeah lets do that he lost the game 10-6, wow Murray really got it done in that one.
The posters saying that the reason we were in this game was because of Gurley well remember Murray had Gurley during most of the games this year also, do y'all remember the Vanderbilt game how did Murray fare in that one.
Surely all of y'all remember all of the times Murray shite the bed during his career. Well y'all may not but I do. Seems in 2010 we were 6-7 as a team yep that's right Mr. Murray in his first year was 6-7.
There have been plenty of games where Murray should have been pulled but wasn't and was given the benefit of the doubt. Lets at least give Mason the same benefit of the doubt.
I'm not one of those guys who think the starting position should be given to anybody, so I hope that every Qb on the roster is given a chance to win the position and may the best man win, but if Mason wins the position lets support him just like we did Murray.
The posters saying that the reason we were in this game was because of Gurley well remember Murray had Gurley during most of the games this year also, do y'all remember the Vanderbilt game how did Murray fare in that one.
Surely all of y'all remember all of the times Murray shite the bed during his career. Well y'all may not but I do. Seems in 2010 we were 6-7 as a team yep that's right Mr. Murray in his first year was 6-7.
There have been plenty of games where Murray should have been pulled but wasn't and was given the benefit of the doubt. Lets at least give Mason the same benefit of the doubt.
I'm not one of those guys who think the starting position should be given to anybody, so I hope that every Qb on the roster is given a chance to win the position and may the best man win, but if Mason wins the position lets support him just like we did Murray.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:03 pm to GurleyManandProud020
I get your point but the difference is that when Murray started, he was a RS Freshman with 4 years to play.
We get Mason for one season. He's been learning for several years behind one of UGA's top, all-time QBs, and he doesn't look like he's ready to fill AM's shoes just yet.
I expected as much. I'm not faulting him for not playing like a Heisman candidate right out of the gate with such little real game experience.
I recall several people on this forum thinking that we should have benched Murray and played Mason last year and let Mason start the season this year, meaning, he is just as good if not better than Murray. Well he hasn't shown it so far (as I expected). That's not a knock on Mason as much as those who thought he was/is better than Murray.
I think Mason will do just fine next season. I don't think he'll break any records and he will make a lot of mistakes, but he will help us win a few games. As others have said, he's Joe Cox 2.0., new and improved, but he's not Aaron Murray. At least not yet.
We get Mason for one season. He's been learning for several years behind one of UGA's top, all-time QBs, and he doesn't look like he's ready to fill AM's shoes just yet.
I expected as much. I'm not faulting him for not playing like a Heisman candidate right out of the gate with such little real game experience.
I recall several people on this forum thinking that we should have benched Murray and played Mason last year and let Mason start the season this year, meaning, he is just as good if not better than Murray. Well he hasn't shown it so far (as I expected). That's not a knock on Mason as much as those who thought he was/is better than Murray.
I think Mason will do just fine next season. I don't think he'll break any records and he will make a lot of mistakes, but he will help us win a few games. As others have said, he's Joe Cox 2.0., new and improved, but he's not Aaron Murray. At least not yet.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:07 pm to GurleyManandProud020
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but if Mason wins the position lets support him just like we did Murray
I hope we support him better than that. Murray has received the most support/appreciation after he was injured.
He got tons of grief from UGA fans throughout his career and a lot of it sounds similar to what Mason is getting right now: lack of arm strength, looks uncomfortable in the pocket, rushes his throws, etc., etc. It changed somewhat after he started smashing school and SEC records to: can't win the big game, doesn't take it seriously enough, too soft, etc., etc.
Same ole same ole.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:15 pm to GoldenDawg
Well Mason really doesn't have that great of an arm. Beyond that I'm not really that concerned about his performance in the bowl given the situation.
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:26 pm to Sanford&MunSon
With you on that one, I hope Bobo & CMR open it up come spring practice and let the best man get the starting slot.
If he is the best then let him earn it on the field if not I would rather see one of our future stars get some needed game face.
If he is the best then let him earn it on the field if not I would rather see one of our future stars get some needed game face.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:43 pm to FooManChoo
but he's not Aaron Murray. At least not yet.
Didn't say he was Aaron Murray, but the Aaron Murray you're talking about isn't the Aaron Murray we got the first 2 1/2 years of his career. Mason has been in the system 4 years not but that just means he hadn't started a game for 4 years. If Mason had been starting and Murray had been on the bench who is to say that Mason wouldn't be just as good or better than Murray. I am not saying he would but who know. My point is this Mason is who we have so lets give him the chance he deserves.
Didn't say he was Aaron Murray, but the Aaron Murray you're talking about isn't the Aaron Murray we got the first 2 1/2 years of his career. Mason has been in the system 4 years not but that just means he hadn't started a game for 4 years. If Mason had been starting and Murray had been on the bench who is to say that Mason wouldn't be just as good or better than Murray. I am not saying he would but who know. My point is this Mason is who we have so lets give him the chance he deserves.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:47 pm to GurleyManandProud020
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who's to say he wouldn't be as good or better than Murray.
Me for one. I've never been the biggest Murray fan, but Mason just doesn't have the talent that AM did.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:15 pm to GurleyManandProud020
I think we have given Mason a chance. He started two games and got a lot of meaningful snaps in a third.
He's got a leg-up on his competition this Spring because of his game experience, but I want the best QB to start for us next year. If that means Mason, then so be it. He isn't bad at all. He just isn't the caliber of Murray.
And again, that isn't a knock on Mason. He obviously wasn't quite as good as Murray to start, because Murray won the job over him every year.
I expect Mason to play better his first year than Murray did his first year because Murray had one season (behind Joe Cox.. haha) to learn some things before taking the reins, while Mason has been learning, studying, and been groomed for 4 years under one of our all-time best QBs (as well as the help from Bobo). He should come out playing better than Murray did for that alone.
I think Mason, if he had started for 4 years, would have done some great things for UGA, but not what Murray did. Murray was able to set every meaningful record we have, so it is difficult to say Mason would have done the exact same thing if they switched places. That's a tough pill to swallow.
He's got a leg-up on his competition this Spring because of his game experience, but I want the best QB to start for us next year. If that means Mason, then so be it. He isn't bad at all. He just isn't the caliber of Murray.
And again, that isn't a knock on Mason. He obviously wasn't quite as good as Murray to start, because Murray won the job over him every year.
I expect Mason to play better his first year than Murray did his first year because Murray had one season (behind Joe Cox.. haha) to learn some things before taking the reins, while Mason has been learning, studying, and been groomed for 4 years under one of our all-time best QBs (as well as the help from Bobo). He should come out playing better than Murray did for that alone.
I think Mason, if he had started for 4 years, would have done some great things for UGA, but not what Murray did. Murray was able to set every meaningful record we have, so it is difficult to say Mason would have done the exact same thing if they switched places. That's a tough pill to swallow.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:32 pm to FooManChoo
It amazes me how some of yalls opinions drastically change from snap to snap.
tech game: Mason is a baller! Look at that heart! SEC champs in 2014!
bowl game: Mason sucks! We should just start a freshman! Next Joe cox!
For frick's sake nobody looked good yesterday, Gurley wasn't even his normal self. It was a shitty bowl game against a shitty team in a pouring rain at noon. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from this game relating to next year.
And I'd also like to point out DJ Shockley's last big audition before he took over his senior year. He was SO bad and sucked SO much (also in a rain soaked game btw) that we had to bring an injured DG back off the bench to save our asses against tech in 04. I'd say DJ had a pretty fair senior year.
This isn't a sunshine pumping post or a "we're going to win X or mason is going to do Y"...it's simply a chill the hell out because nobody has a damn clue how good mason is going to be next year. The dude has started 2 games in his career.
tech game: Mason is a baller! Look at that heart! SEC champs in 2014!
bowl game: Mason sucks! We should just start a freshman! Next Joe cox!
For frick's sake nobody looked good yesterday, Gurley wasn't even his normal self. It was a shitty bowl game against a shitty team in a pouring rain at noon. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from this game relating to next year.
And I'd also like to point out DJ Shockley's last big audition before he took over his senior year. He was SO bad and sucked SO much (also in a rain soaked game btw) that we had to bring an injured DG back off the bench to save our asses against tech in 04. I'd say DJ had a pretty fair senior year.
This isn't a sunshine pumping post or a "we're going to win X or mason is going to do Y"...it's simply a chill the hell out because nobody has a damn clue how good mason is going to be next year. The dude has started 2 games in his career.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:22 pm to WG_Dawg
Once again, Mason isn't worth a shite. Expect a big drop off next year. Hell, the boy can't even make the reads. Ask yourself, why is it on so many times he either zeroed in on Gurley or Lynch when others were open? Face it, he will never be anything more than a backup QB.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:30 pm to WG_Dawg
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It amazes me how some of yalls opinions drastically change from snap to snap.
This place like the god damned loony bin most of the time.
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This isn't a sunshine pumping post or a "we're going to win X or mason is going to do Y"...it's simply a chill the hell out because nobody has a damn clue how good mason is going to be next year. The dude has started 2 games in his career.
No way, bro. Everyone on this board knows more about coaching football than our coaches do. I even saw one guy who claimed that. We're amongst the internet versions of Vince Lombardi over here.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 4:33 pm to gatorhata9
Gurley, Marshall, Chubb, Sony, MM, JSW...
SCREENS ALL DAY BABY. ALL DAY. The Alex Smith Offense.
SCREENS ALL DAY BABY. ALL DAY. The Alex Smith Offense.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 5:27 pm to WG_Dawg
Yeah, I don't really understand the logic here either. The kid has started 2 games without any real offensive weapons and performed adequately. I am not claiming he is "the answer", but I don't see how anyone can predict doom and gloom for 2014 based off of 9 quarters of playing time.
Also, I'm not saying Hutson doesn't improve on a few things such as pocket awareness and footwork, but to write him off after 2 games is asanine. IMO was beneficial to have him suffer through these growing pains now so he has all offseason to focus on improving in these areas so he can be a better player in 2014.
Also, I'm not saying Hutson doesn't improve on a few things such as pocket awareness and footwork, but to write him off after 2 games is asanine. IMO was beneficial to have him suffer through these growing pains now so he has all offseason to focus on improving in these areas so he can be a better player in 2014.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 5:51 pm to WG_Dawg
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For frick's sake nobody looked good yesterday, Gurley wasn't even his normal self. It was a shitty bowl game against a shitty team in a pouring rain at noon. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from this game relating to next year.
Yep, raining the entire game with horrible o-line play, Mason still threw for 300 yards and made the passes at the end of the game to give us a chance to take the lead. Mason isn't Aaron Murray, but not many QBs are. Give Mason a healthy Mitchell plus Gurley and Marshall and he should be fine. In Mason's first two starts he threw for 299 yards and over 300 yards, Joe Cox only threw for 300 yards once in his career and he had AJ Green to throw to.
And FWIW, if there is one thing I trust in Richt and Bobo it's that they will start the best QB on the roster. Even Joe Cox was still head and shoulders above Logan Gray and true-freshman Murray.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:10 pm to GaBassFisher92
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Even Joe Cox was still head and shoulders above Logan Gray and true-freshman Murray.
I'll take Cox numbers from Mason if he can get int's down to around 10-11...
Cox...2009... UGA
185 of 331... 55.9%... 2584yds... 7.8ypp... 24TD's... 15int... 136.3rating
We're spoiled rotten at QB... With the RB's we have if Mason hits those Cox #'s he's had a good year...
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