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re: Kurt Cobain Documentary....

Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:04 pm to
Nirvana was after my time and before my kids' time. I had a sneaking suspicion that my kids would like it, though. So I played 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' kind of loud from my home office to see what would happen and it drew them in like flies.

They had never heard it before and they loved it, FWIW. I'll stick with my classic rock but - to each their own.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Although poppy and cheesy at times, Foo Fighters are far superior to Nirvana.


no freakin way
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 1:51 pm to
Dave Grohl has more talent in his pinky than Cobain had in total.

There's a Foo Fighter's/Dave Grohl documentary out there too that proves this.

And this is coming from a guy who went through his high school and college years listening to Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Chili Peppers, Alice in Chains, and Radiohead religiously. I didn't miss a Lollapallooza and I thought the movie Singles was actually good when it came out.

Foo Fighters, today, are easily a top 2 or 3 rock band going right now. And Dave Grohl writes every ounce of their music and even engineers every bit of their albums. Drums, lead and rhythm guitar, bass, and all vocals. He even plays all of the instruments on most of the FF albums too. The other band members primarily just play the concerts and participate in the actual albums minimally.

Grohl is a musical genius in every sense. He was born to be a musician. Cobain was simply in the right place at the right time with the right sound.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:20 pm to
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by AUGDawg Although poppy and cheesy at times, Foo Fighters are far superior to Nirvana.

Why not just say instead...."I like the Foo fighters better than Nirvana"?? ...which is fine. But, when you say it like you did, it's hard to take seriously.

Nirvana is one of the best selling artists of all time. Something near a hundred MILLION records sold worldwide and first ballot HOF'ers. Which puts them in some pretty rarified air.
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:09 pm to
Fair enough...and to be honest, I don't really like either band that much.

With that said..in my opinion, Foo Fighters are the better band in everyway. Musically, song writing, vocally, etc..

I really don't think Nirvana would be relevant today, even if Cobain was still around.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:17 pm to
It was all about timing. What band you like better comes down to taste.

Nevermind was the catalyst of a major musical and cultural shift. Smells Like Teen spirit was the gateway song. It was amazing really.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:19 pm to
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Dave Grohl has more talent in his pinky than Cobain had in total.


I can assure you are in the minority here...Grohl would not even agree with you.
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:22 pm to
Everyone likes what they like, so there's no real point in arguing who is "better". I've just always found Nirvana's music more interesting. Foo has some good songs but most of them sound pretty much the same to me while Nirvana had more progression and creativity to their music over the course of their albums. I've always liked PJ more than either though.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:29 pm to
I don't listen to either band.

I would personally label Foo Fighters as the quintessential average cookie-cutter dime-a-dozen radio rock. There's nothing special about it. Other than that one of them used to be in a historic band called Nirvana.

Love it, hate it, or indifferent...theNirvana phenomenon was a unique deal. Nothing like that has happened since.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:32 pm to
Grohl is a great musician. He is one of the top drummers of all time, yet can play solid guitar and write songs. Hit songs. Lots of them.

If Frank Black looked like Cobain, maybe Doolittle would have been the album that knocked Warrant and Damn Yankees off the realm of relevance a few years earlier.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4139 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:35 pm to
Dave Grohl's hit lessons

LINK
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:46 pm to
That's funny, but I think his best song is everlong and that one is in an alternate tuning and has a great riff and some complex layers. No doubt he is good.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:45 pm to
This thread reminds me exactly why I hate the music board.

A perfectly normal music discussion turns faggy with such haste.

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:08 am to
How so?
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:09 am to
I haven't seen it yet, but I've watched a handful of documentaries on HBO this week so I know it'll be great. HBO doesn't frick around when they make documentaries. That scientology documentary was intense.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:03 am to
I didn't watch it because I was afraid it would end abruptly and too soon.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 8:01 am to
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I didn't watch it because I was afraid it would end abruptly and too soon.





SPOILERS below (I guess it's a spoiler?)

















I know that your post was just a joke in reference to KC, but the documentary did exactly that. It was really well done (IMO) the whole way, and goes into some pretty good in depth detail on most aspects of his life. The last thing it talks about is his overdose in Europe. Then the very end of the doc is just a black screen with text that's like "oh btw, after he returned to america he killed himself. The end".


I guess they figured there's enough info out there on the death that they didn't need to expand on it, but still. It was weird to just end it like that.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:18 am to
I watched it and it's freaky as hell, what a messed up dude.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:34 am to
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I watched it and it's freaky as hell, what a messed up dude.

Back on topic. Nice...

Yes. A dude who admits to trying to rape a "special needs" retarded girl when in high school.....and that paints and sculpts "artwork" of deformed babies and diseased fetuses......and writes songs called "I hate myself and want to die.".... It's all very disturbing. Made even more unsettling by the way he tells some of these stories with a smugness as if he's proud of the image it paints of himself.

But the other side of the coins is that.....obviously the dude is a unique talent. It just makes you wonder how much the circumstances of his depressing life and alienation played into sparking his creativity. Could he still have been an artist without all that?? OR..........maybe if he'd of had a somewhat normal life in a place where the sun actually came out from time to time would he might've maybe produced some equally good music that wasn't as ugly and dark and depressing and self-loathing as his was??


Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:36 am to
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HBO doesn't frick around when they make documentaries. That scientology documentary was intense.

Yep. HBO makes some good ones..

What is the scientology one called? SOunds interesting.
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