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Kurt Cobain Documentary....

Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:00 pm



Has anyone watched this new Kurt Cobain documentary on HBO? I stumbled on to it about half an hour in the other day and couldn't look away til the credits rolled..

It's some seriously sad, depressing and dark stuff.....but strangely fascinating for some reason.


Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:03 pm to
I need to watch that, because I feel they're vastly overrated.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46396 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

I need to watch that, because I feel they're vastly overrated.


The music itself is solid but not great. The image of the band and the timing of the music, though, was immaculate. It was the right sound, right look, and the right scene/distribution medium at the right time in history.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:17 pm to
It's not really about the band and it's place in musical history or anything. It's more context and background info on the factors that molded and shaped someone as uniquely miserable and conflicted and fricked up as Kurt Cobain.

I never understood how someone that wanted to be a rock star would blow his brains out when he finally achieved that goal, but watching this thing ties it all together. It's pretty fricking sad.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46396 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:37 pm to
What's the title of it? Any idea if it's on Netflix or AmazonPrime?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

the timing of the music, though, was immaculate.

I think you're right. That was the key. That's why it exploded the way it did.

People that weren't alive to understand what music was like back then or how it was listened to or how new music was discovered probably can't fully understand why it was such a phenomenon....and I can fully understand why they'd think Nirvana is over-rated.

It's extremely bizarre that someone like Cobain came along when he did. Although, he'd have probably eventually killed himself anyway, I believe.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:47 pm to
Didn't catch the name. It's on HBO right now. Probably on the HBOgo app too..
Posted by Spunky
Member since Mar 2013
10020 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

stumbled on to it about half an hour in the other day and couldn't look away til the credits rolled.. 




Same here. Can't wait to watch whole thing.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Has anyone watched this new Kurt Cobain documentary on HBO


I saw it a few weeks back, very good documentary. I liked how they showed old home movie footage, stuff that you don't typically see.

There was a long thread about it on the M/TV board that I read after I watched. I've never been super into Nirvana so idk if this is common knowledge, but someone posted a link (that I think it years old) about one of the investigators after his death pointing out all these inconsistencies with courtney and the case. Really interesting stuff. I have no clue what did or didn't happen, but just based on all that I don't think there's any way it was a suicide the way it was originally portrayed.
Posted by Baxter
Athens Ga
Member since Feb 2015
465 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:00 pm to
I think the title is: Montage of heck
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted by TallyDawg
Florida
Member since Jul 2013
926 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:29 pm to
I caught the beginning of it and was glued. But there were times where it was too 'artsy' and that was frustrating.

Then the wife wanted to watch an episode of House of Cards so we flipped that on.

I want to go back and watch the whole thing. I never knew of that first gf so that was shocking.

Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 1:30 pm to
I agree their timing was perfect. Right place at the right time, for sure. I really feel that all the other "Seattle bands" would've still came out and been successful, but for whatever reason Nirvana is the one that blew up commercially.

I still remember the Lithium video vividly
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

. But there were times where it was too 'artsy' and that was frustrating.

Some of it was lame. Especially the cartoon stuff.....but since the bulk of the source material was old cassette tapes of him speaking and piles of scribbled notebooks, journals, artwork, etc....they had to get creative to put it all together on to a screen without being boring.

I'm still disturbed by his lifelong obsession with babies and fetuses in his creepy artwork and sculptures and stuff.
Posted by TallyDawg
Florida
Member since Jul 2013
926 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Some of it was lame. Especially the cartoon stuff.....but since the bulk of the source material was old cassette tapes of him speaking and piles of scribbled notebooks, journals, artwork, etc....they had to get creative to put it all together on to a screen without being boring.

I'm still disturbed by his lifelong obsession with babies and fetuses in his creepy artwork and sculptures and stuff.


my thoughts as well
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 7:19 am to
I have seen it...and other documentaries...the #1 thing that came out of Nirvana and that time period...is Dave Grohl...he is way more talented than Kurt ever was...while Cobain's exit from this world was tragic...it did good for the fact that Grohl would not have been able to let loose his own abilities....therefore no Foo Fighters...as I understand it...Kurt didn't give Grohl much of a voice or say so in Nirvana's music...but look at how fast the first Foo album was released after Cobain's death....Grohl had already written a good bit of that first album's material while apart of Nirvana...I like me some Nirvana but I just think Foo is better...
Posted by strontiamdog
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:02 am to
Couldn't agree more. Saw Nirvana live 2wice and Grohl was by far the driving force of the band. One of the best drummers I've ever seen live
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:00 am to
Respectfully disagree. Foo is good but IMO Nirvana's music was much more dynamic and creative.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25654 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I never understood how someone that wanted to be a rock star would blow his brains out when he finally achieved that goal,


His ultimate encore in his mind??...

ETA:...FWIW... Back then I woulda bet money on Eddie Vedder offing hisself before Cobain...
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 11:06 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:05 pm to
Nevermind WAS the album that killed hair band music. Within a few months of this album, Power 99 became 99x in ATL. All the music we listened to that was called "college" music or Alternative music went from music you only heard on 90.5 or at a party or from your own collection to the most popular music out there.

I saw Nirvana during the Bleach era and I thought they sucked aside from their drummmer who was fricking amazing. He carried that show.
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:50 pm to
Although poppy and cheesy at times, Foo Fighters are far superior to Nirvana.
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