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Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:09 pm to
The only thing that has relevance is that Richt did this to Kirby.

Kirby is a victim.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:27 pm to
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As a new guy here who has lurked for a long time, you are beyond ridiculous Peter. The man has coached four games with players that are not his. I know you love Mark Richt beyond all reason and logic, but please it a team rest. Let the man build his program. Besides, Smart has forgotten more about coaching football in the last second than


I could give a frick about Richt and am glad he is gone... How do you like that county Mccounterson?
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:28 pm to
Apparently c unt is auto edited.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:34 pm to
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There's little doubt that there's a learning curve on the coaching front, but I'm thinking we'll see him get a grip on that as we watch the roster shape to his liking, too. Besides - let's say there's a grain of truth to the upperclassmen static undercurrents - that c


I agree other than I think one of the primary things he needed to do was get upperclassmen buy in. I'm not assuming he didn't. I'm not certain he didn't, but to blame the players for not buying into the coach is bullshite in my opinion.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59740 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 6:03 pm to
I'm totally with you in the thought that the buy-in from upperclassmen is critical. I've paraded Herman's account of such on here multiple times. Kirby's challenge that he'll have to overcome is to get the results he wants out of the guys he didn't pick. That's coaching + roster.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9412 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 6:05 pm to
Your shtick is getting tired very quickly. Kirby doesn't drop passes, he doesn't miss tackles, he doesn't miss field goals and he doesn't miss blocks for Eason. What exactly is he supposed to do differently? You keep saying it's a coaching issue but offer no support for that argument.

This is the same team that got lucky to beat Mizzou, Ga Southern and Tech last year. We should have been 7-6.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Alapaha
Ellijay, GA
Member since Dec 2009
1477 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 6:10 pm to
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Also of note, he didn't even mention the Nichols state debacle.


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That wasn’t obvious when Ole Miss was bludgeoning UGA 45-0 in the 3rd quarter last Saturday, or when Nichols State took the lead in the 3rd quarter earlier in September.


Maybe you need to read again.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 6:24 pm to
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to blame the players for not buying into the coach is bullshite in my opinion

I don't see any evidence of this lack of buy-in people are talking about. Not being good doesn't equal a lack of buy in.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:31 pm to
P.C. at it's finest. Feewings may be hurt, trigger warnings will be necessary, and microaggressions will fly unchecked if people use badspeech that hatemnongers like Geoffrey Chaucer, William Shakespeare, James Joyce, Henry Miller, and Samuel Beckett used.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:48 pm to
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Your shtick is getting tired very quickly. Richt doesn't drop passes, he doesn't miss tackles, he doesn't miss field goals and he doesn't miss blocks for Eason. What exactly is he supposed to do differently? You keep saying it's a coaching issue but offer no support for that agreement. This is the same team that got lucky to beat Mizzou, Ga Southern and Tech last year. We should have been 7-6.


It certainly falls on each individual player to play his best football. Players have made mistakes and they need to take ownership of them. On the other hand, it is up to the coaches to coach the team he has and put them in the best position to be successful. If you think Smart has done so, then I respectfully disagree.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32831 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:51 pm to
The coddled richt upperclassmen cant handle the heat from Smart. Cant wait until they are gone and replaced by men.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:54 pm to
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I don't see any evidence of this lack of buy-in people are talking about. Not being good doesn't equal a lack of buy in.


I agree... There may be a few guys unhappy.... but hell, we got a starter from a Bama as a transfer this year...you get 90ish players , a few are bound to be unhappy. That does not mean they are all Richt disciples who don't want to play for meanie weanie Kirbs. Frankly, I think it is an overblown excuse some folks need to justify hope.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:11 pm to
I agree to some extent our talent is below par for what a UGA team should have, but do we not at least have close to the same amount of "talent" as Houston? Would we be beating UConnn 35-7? Or are certain coaches able to get the most out of what they have
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63928 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:14 pm to
The numbers will show us the path.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:07 pm to
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The coddled richt upperclassmen cant handle the heat from Smart. Cant wait until they are gone and replaced by men.


Those are the same players that were supposedly superior talent that Richt couldn't take to the next level. Did their talent leave with their coach in December?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32831 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:31 pm to
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Those are the same players that were supposedly superior talent that Richt couldn't take to the next level. Did their talent leave with their coach in December?


You still think the 2013 class was full of superior talent?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:58 pm to
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So again...Kirbs doesn't have to coach up this team... Just wait a few years til he gets his players in...you'll see... It's gonna be great.

Please fricking tell me what about my statement you construed as Kirby having no responsibility to coach the team up this season? I'll give you a hint, if you consider it in its entirety, you can't do it. Time to shut the frick up with this bit. It's as tired as you must still be from all those two a days you ran in your "glory days".
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:41 pm to
I'm still curious how you guys have decided Smart is a failure after four games? Sabin's first year was a mess too and he turned out pretty well.
Posted by BoogerSykes
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1413 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:51 am to
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Sabin's first year was a mess too and he turned out pretty well.


Saban won everywhere he went except the Dolphins, he already had an establish resume. Waaaaay to soon to compare Kirby to Saban.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 5:03 am to
It's not a comparison, it's an example. Meyer and literally every succeful coach to run a football team has had rough patches, just relax and ride this out.
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