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Kirby's Vision....
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:28 pm
Here is an article I read linked over on 247...I think this is a good point of view.
Check it out..
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Check it out..
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:36 pm to Sandwich
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I saw what Kirby was able to do at Alabama in taking players from Georgia like Alvin Kamara
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and get them to win with the Tide.
Stopped reading.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:40 pm to Sandwich
If there's truly nothing fundamentally wrong, and nobody needs to bother being concerned about anything, then why are people like this guy having to write 10,000 word essays to try and convince us of it? 
Makes no sense.
Also of note, he didn't even mention the Nichols state debacle. Just acts like ole miss is the only evidence of disaster.
Makes no sense.
Also of note, he didn't even mention the Nichols state debacle. Just acts like ole miss is the only evidence of disaster.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:41 pm to Sandwich
Lots of sunshine pumping in that article, but the basic message is about right. Kirby Smart's Georgia is all about turning up recruiting.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Kirby Smart's Georgia is all about turning up recruiting.
Unfortunately, that alone doesn't win titles. Kirby will sink or swim with his ability to adapt once he realizes we aren't going to get 5 consecutive all time great classes like he had at Alabama. The tide are on a historic recruiting run that may never be matched.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:51 pm to RedPants
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Unfortunately, that alone doesn't win titles. Kirby will sink or swim with his ability to adapt once he realizes we aren't going to get 5 consecutive all time great classes like he had at Alabama. The tide are on a historic recruiting run that may never be matched.
We're also not asking him to win 4 of 7 titles or whatever.
FSU and OSU won with a series of top 3-5 classes. That is attainable. Saban's Alabama won't be at this level forever.
It's not like his plan is to ignore development and game management. He just wants better players. Recruiting is the best indicator of who wins big.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:53 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Lots of sunshine pumping in that article, but the basic message is about right. Kirby Smart's Georgia is all about turning up recruiting.
Which is obviously what was lacking when I consider our current roster. You know something is wrong when your best receiver is 5'8" 175lbs. and doesn't know how to catch the ball with his hands.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It's not like his plan is to ignore development and game management. He just wants better players. Recruiting is the best indicator of who wins big.
I agree, and I think you missed my point. To me, it seems like he's putting all his eggs in the recruiting basket, he's constantly mentioning it in interviews. I understand it's important, it just comes across in a way that makes me think he believes if recruiting is ramped up, everything else will take care of itself.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 3:55 pm to RedPants
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I agree, and I think you missed my point. To me, it seems like he's putting all his eggs in the recruiting basket, he's constantly mentioning it in interviews. I understand it's important, it just comes across in a way that makes me think he believes if recruiting is ramped up, everything else will take care of itself.
A lot of coaches do that. Fisher, Meyer, Saban, Swinney, etc. are talking to recruits in every interview they do. Even Richt did that a lot.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Lots of sunshine pumping in that article, but the basic message is about right. Kirby Smart's Georgia is all about turning up recruiting.
Agreed. College football is probably 75-80% Jimmies and Joes. Take a look at the great X/O guys and see how things seem to be working out for them if they don't recruit at a high level as well. Hell, Malzahn is considered an X/O genius offensively and they're not exactly lighting it up at Auburn (and that's *WITH* elite recruiting). Petrino is lighting up the world right now (another offensive guru), but Lamar Jackson appears to be one of those lightning in a bottle guys... will be interesting to see if he can maintain his pace or if he comes back to earth.
There do appear to be some things that need to be addressed from a scheme/coaching standpoint, but the majority of people who are jumping on the OMG WE MADE A MISTAKE/I MISS RICHT bandwagon are missing the larger point. This week should tell us a lot more about what the staff (I'm looking at you Chaney... for the love of God can we run some pitch plays and general outside runs?!) is able to get out of what's here. At home, if we put up the same kind of effort and turtle after giving up any kind of lead, there is a problem. Not a #FireSmart level problem, but there is something wrong beyond just roster deficiencies.
I still maintain that from a HC perspective, I would have preferred Herman but I understand and have gotten behind the Smart hire. Reason 1 being that Herman likely bounces for UT Austin or even LSU (still close to Texas) when those jobs open (or USC even as he's originally from the area). Chaney was sold to us as a guy that gets the most out of the guys on the roster and right now I'm not seeing it. Four games is a small sample size sure, but it's also ~1/3 of the season... It's time to nut up and get things going the right direction. Tucker/Smart seem to at least be shaking things up a bit this week with some roster moves but I certainly hope we see more Cover 2 looks and find a way to manufacture QB pressure. Our corners flat out aren't strong enough to run man coverage 80% of the game, particularly if QB has all day to throw.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:18 pm to fibonaccisquared
So again...Kirbs doesn't have to coach up this team... Just wait a few years til he gets his players in...you'll see... It's gonna be great.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:28 pm to Peter Buck
It's funny how much you are bothered by the talent issue.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:32 pm to djsdawg
I'm enjoying everyone skirting around the coaching issue... Which is much more tangible than a perceived talent issue.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:47 pm to Peter Buck
There's little doubt that there's a learning curve on the coaching front, but I'm thinking we'll see him get a grip on that as we watch the roster shape to his liking, too. Besides - let's say there's a grain of truth to the upperclassmen static undercurrents - that can get in the way of coaching, too.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:48 pm to Peter Buck
Talent and experience are both quantifiable. Coaching certainly isn't, and this is an issue thats been involved for our 2013 and 2014 classes for years, so it can't be laid soley at the feet of the current regime.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:48 pm to Peter Buck
Something called "Incarnate Word", which I assume is a college, put up more points on Nicholls state this season than we did.
fricking Richt.
fricking Richt.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:49 pm to Peter Buck
As a new guy here who has lurked for a long time, you are beyond ridiculous Peter. The man has coached four games with players that are not his. I know you love Mark Richt beyond all reason and logic, but please it a team rest. Let the man build his program. Besides, Smart has forgotten more about coaching football in the last second than you will know in ten lifetimes.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:51 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Who cares? That has no meaning or relevance to anything. This obsession over Nicholls is silly.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:00 pm to HTDawg
Kirby's second game as a HC has no relevance on how he has done so far, or on our season?
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:08 pm to HTDawg
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As a new guy here who has lurked for a long time, you are beyond ridiculous Peter. The man has coached four games with players that are not his. I know you love Mark Richt beyond all reason and logic, but please it a team rest. Let the man build his program. Besides, Smart has forgotten more about coaching football in the last second than you will know in ten lifetimes.
These players became his players the instant he signed his contract with Georgia. The key to success for any coach is, of course, to draft players that fit your system. But a first year coach can have success by adapting a system that best utilizes the talent available. Not getting RBs outside the tackles, and not using Godwin and our TEs like we have in past years is NOT designing an offense around the talent on the team.
This team obviously doesn't fit Kirbys system, and he can't change the players this season, so he needs to change his system. Change it back to what he wants after he gets the players he wants.
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